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« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2009, 08:23:38 PM »

Any negative point about footballers fans have to make the first thing is always they earn xxx. I'm starting to go so much the other way because of it. Fans dish out a shit load of abuse to players, I bet adebayor was getting a load before his goal, all he does is run towards them and slide... Not exactly scary or agressive. A lot less back than the arsenal fans will have given him out. Take it on the chin and get on with it.

As for the 'stamp', looks more like a kick to me. 3 matches would be fair enough, not exactly Batty style that got 6 games so 3 would seem fair.
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« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2009, 08:34:57 PM »

Any negative point about footballers fans have to make the first thing is always they earn xxx. I'm starting to go so much the other way because of it. Fans dish out a shit load of abuse to players, I bet adebayor was getting a load before his goal, all he does is run towards them and slide... Not exactly scary or agressive. A lot less back than the arsenal fans will have given him out. Take it on the chin and get on with it.

As for the 'stamp', looks more like a kick to me. 3 matches would be fair enough, not exactly Batty style that got 6 games so 3 would seem fair.

"A kick" you say !

It looked more like a deliberate raking of his studs down RVP's face which is surely unacceptable to all footie fans.
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« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2009, 08:41:56 PM »

Okay I admit that I may be slightly biased but I would not consider a six match ban excessive for the stamp on RVP alone.

I have no problem with a big ban if someone intentionally stamps on someone else...all for it.

But a 2 or 3 match ban for his celebration would be ridic;

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t but on the same scale for inappropriate/ungentlemanly conduct

 bringing the game into disrepute?

Bringing the game into disrepute?..by celebrating a goal?...surely not.

the way in which it was done by incitement yes

So is a footballer ever allowed to stick one up at the fans who have been abusing him for 90 minutes?

No IMHO
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« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2009, 10:20:57 PM »

stamping = 3 match ban from my view he clearly re directed his foot towards van persie

incitement =2 match ban OK he didn't start any riots but the length of the field he ran to incite them was just wrong after all he is supposed to be "professional"

The stamping....OK, 3 match ban seems fair ..would be more if up to me (although intent can't be proven (as with the Eduardo dive) and the ref must have seen it, just decided not to take action).

The 2 match ban for incitement would be a joke IMO. He was given a card...that's the end of that.

Completely agree with Boldie on this one.
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« Reply #64 on: September 15, 2009, 10:32:38 PM »

So if a player runs the length of the pitch to celebrate in front of the opposition fans and the fans react like a bunch of savages it's the player that has the problem?!

I've been a season ticket holder most of my life and have abused the players as much as the next person (and in response expect to have to deal with the same in return) but I've never seen anything that made me want to physically hurt anyone.

I just worry that we're taking all responsibility away from the fans to be decent human beings and think it's a dangerous road to go down.

I like this post and I agree with your sentiment but the reality is different.

We know for a fact that inciting the crowd provokes violent reaction. We've seen it time and time again (examples: Gary Neville, Jamie Carragher, Mourinho, Rooney all attacked by some sort of missile for inciting the crowd - as mentioned before there was trouble outside the City ground after this game) so whilst I'd love to put my faith in the crowd, it's not going to happen.

The accountable person here is the player who can always be identified and punished unlike members of the crowd at times. They know incitement provokes violence from history and they know they aren't allowed to do it, so doing it is a hugely bannable offence IMO.

Footy fans have been hurling abuse for decades, it hasn't come along recently contrary to stories of "how it used to be in my day". Players have always had to deal with it. Never once has it been an issue of being allowed to give it back. You shouldn't and can't as far as I'm concerned. It's more dangerous than any high tackle (see West Ham Millwall recently - imagine inciting that crowd like Adebayor did!) and should be as punishable at least.
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« Reply #65 on: September 16, 2009, 08:42:32 AM »

I do agree that its been around for a long time and isn't, as the media would have us believe, a recent trend and I also agree that it's easier to target the player for disciplinary measures then the crowd for any number of reasons.

My problem is that I'm disgusted at seeing football fans act like this on a regular basis and I think that regardless of what has happened in the world of football there is no excuse for it. I mean as a Spurs fan I was gutted when Sol Campbell left and the way in which he did but I found the response from a number of fans to be disgusting! (I won't bother going into detail, I'm sure you all know the kind of things)

Personally I love the passion within football and I want that to extend to the players. I welcome opposition players sliding on their knees in front of me after I've given them some stick BUT I do understand that the violent mentality of a minority of fans precludes this from being the reality.
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« Reply #66 on: September 16, 2009, 03:10:30 PM »

I would give him 2/3 games for the 'stamp', a warning for the celebration.

I also attach no blame to the ref for not spotting it during play.
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« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2009, 07:31:30 PM »

25k fine and 2 match ban suspended
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« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2009, 08:24:01 AM »

25k fine and 2 match ban suspended

Wonder what Neville will get for acting like a prick.


oh wait...he's Neville.
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« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2009, 08:39:09 AM »

25k fine and 2 match ban suspended

Wonder what Neville will get for acting like a prick.


oh wait...he's Neville.
Adebayor basically got no punishment for his celebration, Bellamy got no punishment for hitting a fan being held back by stewards and you want know what punishment Neville will get for doing a lot less?
Pretty sure it'll be no punishment also.
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« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2009, 10:07:09 AM »

25k fine and 2 match ban suspended

Wonder what Neville will get for acting like a prick.


oh wait...he's Neville.
Adebayor basically got no punishment for his celebration, Bellamy got no punishment for hitting a fan being held back by stewards and you want know what punishment Neville will get for doing a lot less?
Pretty sure it'll be no punishment also.

25K to Adebayor might be like fining me a 5'er but the 2 match suspended could come back to bite him at some stage.

So Fine Neville a 5'er and give him a suspended sentence as well....please make it for the full season and I'll bet ya he would serve a ban before the season is over.

p.s. Bellamy should obv get a ban of some sort.
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