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« on: September 24, 2009, 01:01:18 PM »

not sure if i've posted on here before...a couple of interesting spots from a recent comp that i'm sure i could have played better.

level 4
sb v bb: he has 25k, is on the red at 4 in the afternoon & in the 30 mins. he's been on my right has shown one out & out move, betting 3 streets with 10 high.
i have 40k, a shade above average, blinds 150/300.
all fold around, he pulls in his cards, goes to peek, doesn't, & makes up the 300, blind.
i look, find 9-9 & make it 1100 total.
now he looks & makes it 3300.
what next?

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400-800 w a 75 ante.
average is around 50k, i'm sitting on 78k & raise to 2100 on the button w A-10s.
sb folds & bb who has 120k raises to 7700 - he's taken some big pots with no show, reasonablly active, i suspect a little fishey, possibly french lol.
what' next?
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2009, 01:04:18 PM »

not sure if i've posted on here before...a couple of interesting spots from a recent comp that i'm sure i could have played better.

level 4
sb v bb: he has 25k, is on the red at 4 in the afternoon & in the 30 mins. he's been on my right has shown one out & out move, betting 3 streets with 10 high.
i have 40k, a shade above average, blinds 150/300.
all fold around, he pulls in his cards, goes to peek, doesn't, & makes up the 300, blind.
i look, find 9-9 & make it 1100 total.
now he looks & makes it 3300.
what next?

level 8
400-800 w a 75 ante.
average is around 50k, i'm sitting on 78k & raise to 2100 on the button w A-10s.
sb folds & bb who has 120k raises to 7700 - he's taken some big pots with no show, reasonablly active, i suspect a little fishey, possibly french lol.
what' next?

Pls post more on here in that case Julian. Few people get to play in the comps you do and vs the interesting players that you do.

Hand 1) call.

Hand 2) pass.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »

ty cos,
yeah, prob a good idea, need to work on my lingo, i gather 'back-raise' is enough to tilt some folk...
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2009, 01:16:14 PM »

1. I think you are better off trying to set mine here. You are just about getting a price to justify, esp as we are prob getting paid if we hit. Im not inclined to assume a bluff here. No point the the 4 bet as you turn your hand into a bluff as you pretty much have to fold. The call also means you could proceed with caution on a good flop if if slowed down.            2. I think you are playing so deep here you can call and play a pot in position. Not ideal putting in 10% pre, but the right flop could help. I peel here. You cant really 4 bet as you have enough fold equity for him to 5 bet commit you, with a bluff, Making a fairly minimal dent in his stack if you happened to 6 bet jam (holding AA), he can fold. Hope that is clear. Sorry for no paras. On my mobile.   
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2009, 01:51:55 PM »

1) this looks like a move but with position i would call and play from there

2) yuck, i don't really like calling here and i really want to muck but there would probably be something inside wanting me to do something aggro. I think i would have a good ponder of how i would react to action before i made the raise so i had a plan based upon what had gone on before. If in doubt i'd pass.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2009, 02:17:13 PM »

Ugh so you're sure he didn't look pre in hand 1. ewww. I'd prob call and stack of on alot of good flops for our hand.

Hand 2 I would flat the 3bet and play some pokers, our hand is too strong to 4 bet, if he's active then we can definitely pick up chips post flop if we connect, also if he's french as you say then lets keep the PSR down and play a pot in position with him. That and ATs is a well good hand on the button ,  why the hell should we have to fold it......
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2009, 02:20:02 PM »

ty cos,
yeah, prob a good idea, need to work on my lingo, i gather 'back-raise' is enough to tilt some folk...

Notts was my learning ground, backraise is fine with me!
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2009, 02:50:08 PM »

Julian. Would be great to see you post more. Maybe we should put like a glossary of terms in the pha post if it would encourage more people to post. I assume you know most terms but others may not be comfortale. Just a thought. As for back raise . . . . . .  . . . Erm no. :-) 
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2009, 02:55:05 PM »

Hand 1, i think 4b calling it off is way better than calling.

Hand 2, i dunno, if u got a more solid read on him call, but i think folding is probably best.
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2009, 03:07:51 PM »

You haven't mentioned what sort of image you're trading off in either hand so it's more difficult to know how to proceed. However, Hand 1 I doubt I'm laying down 9-9 vs a dude who calls blind before 3xing my raise. If you call he's gonna fire plenty of flops it seems so 4-betting seems better. If you've been active 4-betting seems much better. Hand 2 I can find a call if you've been active on the button but more inclined to fold this than the 9's.
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2009, 03:43:27 PM »

You haven't mentioned what sort of image you're trading off in either hand so it's more difficult to know how to proceed. However, Hand 1 I doubt I'm laying down 9-9 vs a dude who calls blind before 3xing my raise. If you call he's gonna fire plenty of flops it seems so 4-betting seems better. If you've been active 4-betting seems much better. Hand 2 I can find a call if you've been active on the button but more inclined to fold this than the 9's.

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2009, 05:15:34 PM »

You haven't mentioned what sort of image you're trading off in either hand so it's more difficult to know how to proceed. However, Hand 1 I doubt I'm laying down 9-9 vs a dude who calls blind before 3xing my raise. If you call he's gonna fire plenty of flops it seems so 4-betting seems better. If you've been active 4-betting seems much better. Hand 2 I can find a call if you've been active on the button but more inclined to fold this than the 9's.

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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2009, 05:40:41 PM »

Min 4bet the first and let him spaz, do it with a grin on ur face too, he won't refuse.


Second one is just a pass I think.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2009, 05:41:44 PM »

ty cos,
yeah, prob a good idea, need to work on my lingo, i gather 'back-raise' is enough to tilt some folk...

Notts was my learning ground, backraise is fine with me!


I used to like you, that was before you said that using the phrase backraise is fine.
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2009, 05:45:09 PM »

ty cos,
yeah, prob a good idea, need to work on my lingo, i gather 'back-raise' is enough to tilt some folk...

Notts was my learning ground, backraise is fine with me!


I used to like you, that was before you said that using the phrase backraise is fine.

I never used to like you.

Backraise is com!
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