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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2009, 06:15:59 PM » |
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Thing is, Vargas WOULD fold for 132 and not for 45. The reason he calls for 45 is two others call and now he has "value" as mentioned earlier.
How many gamblers/bad players/old pro's do you here talk about value??? They think just cos they're getting a ridic price on the pot calling with Q3 is ok cos you have the odds
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2009, 06:19:47 PM » |
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He wont fold for 132 every time if you play aggressively in general.
Other people dont adjust properly either and because he loosens up the game they just loosen up even against you. So bigger is better in these games imo.
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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2009, 06:25:54 PM » |
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He wont fold for 132 every time if you play aggressively in general.
Other people dont adjust properly either and because he loosens up the game they just loosen up even against you. So bigger is better in these games imo.
Obv it depends on how he's been playing in general but 9/10 Vargas folds here. He's not as degen as he used to be |
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« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2009, 06:32:58 PM » |
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He wont fold for 132 every time if you play aggressively in general.
Other people dont adjust properly either and because he loosens up the game they just loosen up even against you. So bigger is better in these games imo.
Obv it depends on how he's been playing in general but 9/10 Vargas folds here. He's not as degen as he used to be I've only ever played with him in the last 6 - 8 months. |
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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2009, 06:35:21 PM » |
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Wow, I thought this thread was over, lol.
Yes I owe 50p; but it wasn't intended as a bad beat story.
At the table three people said what did you have - KK, AQ and 88 were the hands proffered - so I thought I'd post asking if the play works out any different with these 3 'possible' hands.
I thought my raise of £45 from the sb given my image was fine, but when I got three callers (not the expected one) it opened up a whole new debate - well, the question of can I do anything now other than shove?
Anyway, thanks for the replies. I will tread a whole lot warily against Vargas from now on, lol.
Oh, and one hand a millenium is stretching it. I'm not that tight. Although some people seem to think so (lucky me).
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titaniumbean
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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2009, 06:39:23 PM » |
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Well obviously answers to non bad beat type post are 88 it sucks. shove or call. AQ sucks so hard it hurts. Kk perfect if not on the small side depending on the other players.
if they will call big bets, why not bet big with big hands ldo
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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2009, 07:06:17 PM » |
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Wow, I thought this thread was over, lol.
Yes I owe 50p; but it wasn't intended as a bad beat story.
At the table three people said what did you have - KK, AQ and 88 were the hands proffered - so I thought I'd post asking if the play works out any different with these 3 'possible' hands.
I thought my raise of £45 from the sb given my image was fine, but when I got three callers (not the expected one) it opened up a whole new debate - well, the question of can I do anything now other than shove?
Anyway, thanks for the replies. I will tread a whole lot warily against Vargas from now on, lol.
Oh, and one hand a millenium is stretching it. I'm not that tight. Although some people seem to think so (lucky me).
Oi!! Get your own thread and stop trying to hijack this one ffs  |
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2009, 02:43:14 AM » |
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Why is everyone ganging up on Vargas?
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2009, 04:24:34 PM » |
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Why is everyone ganging up on Vargas?
We're not. |
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2009, 05:12:01 PM » |
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Why is everyone ganging up on Vargas?
We're not. Nobody's ganging up on Vargas. I don't think anybody dislikes him one bit. He needs to be discussed though because he brings a very specific dynamic to any table that he's playing at. |
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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2009, 06:44:38 AM » |
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It's the same with anyone who plays very aggressively and bluffs alot you have to change the way you play against him as you would playing against someone who is stupendously tight.
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« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2009, 02:54:11 PM » |
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It's the same with anyone who plays very aggressively and bluffs alot you have to change the way you play against him as you would playing against someone who is stupendously tight.
Or someone who raises pre, and then open folds the flop?  |
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« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2009, 03:10:36 PM » |
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It's the same with anyone who plays very aggressively and bluffs alot you have to change the way you play against him as you would playing against someone who is stupendously tight.
Or someone who raises pre, and then open folds the flop? So that's how you have 23k posts ya? I am the omaha king and don't you forget it!! |
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« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2009, 03:49:24 PM » |
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Why would you feel uncomfortable you have a  and a  . Sucks that you lost . But 45 is a good size with kk with vargas there when you're oop. AK is another matter imo. I have only played with Vargas a little bit but isnt £45 inviting him to get away from this. |
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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2009, 04:00:31 PM » |
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Why would you feel uncomfortable you have a and a . Sucks that you lost . But 45 is a good size with kk with vargas there when you're oop. AK is another matter imo. I have only played with Vargas a little bit but isnt £45 inviting him to get away from this. meh. imo not in the slightest. And it's not because it's him it's because the game is playing loose and I would exploit other people who call too much (like the people who sit in waiting for dc) etc. If they will call big bets do not be afraid to make big bets. We are just exploiting them and that's what we are in the game for no? |
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