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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2009, 11:27:55 PM »

Does ur opponent know u went to the Gold Coast for dinner? If he does you should ship.
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2009, 11:30:58 PM »

Not sure about that one - there's no reason why he would know, but he could have followed me over there
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2009, 11:32:41 PM »

Does ur opponent know u went to the Gold Coast for dinner? If he does you should ship.

lol
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2009, 11:34:07 PM »

Metagame, u should also ship if u are wearing an item of Gold Coast clothing or have shown a Gold Coast room key.


Deep dynamics stuff
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2009, 11:41:32 PM »

Metagame, u should also ship if u are wearing an item of Gold Coast clothing or have shown a Gold Coast room key.


Deep dynamics stuff

You should do a life coaching thing. Kinda like the UK's Tommy Angelo but on a broader basis and with much better sideburns
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 01:07:38 AM »

forgot to mention The Villain had a goatee beard
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2009, 05:29:48 AM »

forgot to mention The Villain had a goatee beard

Important information....turn a queen and then slowroll imo. If that fails i think you have grounds to declare his hand dead.

Did he also have a card protector with a photo of wife and/or children?....2 round penalty if so, commencing the next time he touches his face.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2009, 01:47:40 PM »

Card Protector was oversized coin. However i looked him up on pokerstars later on and his avatar was a picture of a baby, presumably his son or daughter.
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2009, 01:56:21 PM »

fold pre fold now

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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2009, 01:58:49 PM »

forgot to mention The Villain had a goatee beard

Important information....turn a queen and then slowroll imo. If that fails i think you have grounds to declare his hand dead.

Did he also have a card protector with a photo of wife and/or children?....2 round penalty if so, commencing the next time he touches his face.

I like the idea of this, may have to incorporate it into my game
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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2009, 02:14:01 PM »

Smells of 2 pair...I would pass pre based on the grounds that the blinds are missing, you'll get looked up very light since everyone assumes you were on a steal anyway (and KJ is usually the sort of hand that needs to hit a flop hard when you're OOP in a multiway pot) of course by this logic the button could be as weak as middle pair if he figures you'd have to cbet any flop ....guess it depends on his style....seems a bit too much to call if we're crushed and raising could be anywhere from suicidal to genius....a little deeper and I would peel, check the turn and lead the river if checked behind and a brick/gin falls
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2009, 02:19:48 PM »

I would pass pre based on the grounds that the blinds are missing

eh?!

you'll get looked up very light since everyone assumes you were on a steal anyway

Isn't this what we want?  If opponents are likely to think our hand range here is much wider than KJ type hands then pls let them call imo...

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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2009, 02:30:44 PM »

I would pass pre based on the grounds that the blinds are missing

eh?!

you'll get looked up very light since everyone assumes you were on a steal anyway

Isn't this what we want?  If opponents are likely to think our hand range here is much wider than KJ type hands then pls let them call imo...



Yeah but the problem is you're raising from a vulnerable position and your raise is lacking credibility from the start, so this hand is gonna be hard to play. The lack of credibility means the initiative is seized by players in a better position than you. Hence in this hand the button can be raising light but we haven't really got a clue where we're at. This isn't a good place to be nomatter which way you look at it. If you want to play this hand limping could be quite funky. You seize a bit of the initiative back because the play is suspiscious and you could always 3-bet a raise. Now you have credibility imo.
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2009, 02:38:17 PM »

I would pass pre based on the grounds that the blinds are missing

eh?!

you'll get looked up very light since everyone assumes you were on a steal anyway

Isn't this what we want?  If opponents are likely to think our hand range here is much wider than KJ type hands then pls let them call imo...



Yeah but the problem is you're raising from a vulnerable position and your raise is lacking credibility from the start, so this hand is gonna be hard to play. The lack of credibility means the initiative is seized by players in a better position than you. Hence in this hand the button can be raising light but we haven't really got a clue where we're at. This isn't a good place to be nomatter which way you look at it. If you want to play this hand limping could be quite funky. You seize a bit of the initiative back because the play is suspiscious and you could always 3-bet a raise. Now you have credibility imo.

I disagree with the thinking that everyone will just assume our raise is light because the blinds aren't there. It's not that we need to steal blinds at this point (the blinds are small and we have like 80bigs) in a very slow structured comp so we shouldn't be just raising trash UTG to possibly play a pot OOP with complete trash.
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2009, 02:58:32 PM »

I agree not everyone will think we're raising light. In this example only 3 out of our 5 oppos didn't believe us.
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