Can I possibly fold here?

[TightEnd]

Unknown player

Small Stars MTT, first level

Having flopped it all I am thinking "hope he has got a Jack"

On the turn I am thinking "Bingo he has a Jack"

On the river I am thinking "Not AJ surely, not pocket fives, Quads? you must be joking!"

What else would he be putting me all in with?


PokerStars Game #34074315577: Tournament #203040584, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/10/15 15:33:17 ET
Table '203040584 80' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Kikiriki77 (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: BRANDBIL (3250 in chips)
Seat 3: Prewie (3090 in chips)
Seat 4: hoopking11 (3720 in chips)
Seat 5: madrik (2920 in chips)
Seat 6: Silent57 (2875 in chips)
Seat 7: el96650 (2625 in chips)
Seat 8: CaptSparrow1 (2545 in chips)
CaptSparrow1: posts small blind 15
Kikiriki77: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Prewie [ ]
BRANDBIL: folds
Prewie: calls 30
hoopking11: calls 30
madrik: folds
Silent57: folds
el96650: folds
CaptSparrow1: calls 15
Kikiriki77: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
CaptSparrow1: checks
Kikiriki77: checks
Prewie: bets 120
hoopking11: calls 120
CaptSparrow1: folds
Kikiriki77: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Prewie: bets 180
hoopking11: calls 180
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
Prewie: bets 510
hoopking11: raises 2100 to 2610

[BulldozerD]

he can still have other Jx hands like TJ, QJ etc and play like this - if he has AJ/AA then just a cooler and load up another, well played now just finish the job and call

[gatso]

don't open limp, don't bet random amounts on each street, as played snap and load up another tourney as he sticks j5 in your eye

[MANTIS01]

Yes, you can possibly fold here. You could also turn off your laptop and watch Emmerdale for the rest of the evening. A full house beats 3 jacks right?

[Cf]

Yeah, your bet sizing does look rather inconsistent. Pot on flop, half pot on turn, and ~3/4 pot on river.

You have to get it in on this river though. There are Jx hands you can beat.

I don't mind the limp pre in a low stakes game.

[MANTIS01]

I think limping is the best play. It sets up this very situation.

[TightEnd]

good comments


the bet sizing wasn't random btw, it may be incorrect/mistaken but it wasn't random.

[Cf]

good comments


the bet sizing wasn't random btw, it may be incorrect/mistaken but it wasn't random.

You mean you don't have a button on your stars client that says "bet random amount"? That sucks

[TightEnd]

don't open limp, don't bet random amounts on each street, as played snap and load up another tourney as he sticks j5 in your eye

you don't open limp 22 at 10-20 in EP in a $10 game?

you fold? raise?

no value at all in set mining?

[Cf]

don't open limp, don't bet random amounts on each street, as played snap and load up another tourney as he sticks j5 in your eye

you don't open limp 22 at 10-20 in EP in a $10 game?

you fold? raise?

no value at all in set mining?

I think the argument is your hand is a bit face up when you limp/call a raise to set mine, and are suddenly interested in a raggy flop. I don't think people at these stakes generally notice though.

[gatso]

don't open limp, don't bet random amounts on each street, as played snap and load up another tourney as he sticks j5 in your eye

you don't open limp 22 at 10-20 in EP in a $10 game?

you fold? raise?

no value at all in set mining?

personally I raise, I'd rather watch emmerdale with mantis for the first 2 levels then late reg than dick around open limping for 30, but if you're going to limp you should never, ever be considering the fold having flopped the world

[Ironside]

tighty if you fold here we are going to transfer you to a knitting forum

[BulldozerD]

i personally never open limp but in a $10 comp no-one will know any different, so difference is pretty marginal.

i also agree your sizing is a bit weird throughout the hand but at least you bet it when some other people would check thinking they are clever.

[Cf]

I love people who slow play sets against me then feel really clever that they got a call off me on the river, when they could have my entire stack earlier in the hand if they wanted.

[titaniumbean]

Yes, you can possibly fold here. You could also turn off your laptop and watch Emmerdale for the rest of the evening. A full house beats 3 jacks right?

Mantis you are incredible, spot on every time