Ruling at IPO Side Event

[gatso]

now that I understand kin's one I still think it's a horrible ruling. if you rule the hand dead then you are saying that deliberately exposing your hand is the same as folding. you can't give people penalties for folding

assuming the house rule is that you cannot show your hand then either it's a fold and you have no penalty or the hand is still live and you give a penalty after the hand for exposing cards but not a combination

if there were more than 2 players in the hand then ruling it as a fold and giving a penalty is acceptable as you're affecting the future action in the hand

[phatomch]

it5 depends where you play... frenchy has declared he will call if u raise, so its binr=ding in Grosvenors, but then he has passed a live hnd face up without further declaratuin si=o it all depends on local rules. End of the day the YD is 100% correct whatever he ruled at the timw as he is and can never be wrong

[the-oneeye]

I feel i the decision should be the hand stands as it is a call out of turn and the verbal declaration stands, hwever the frenchie should be then given a 1 orbit penalty for deliberatly acting out of turn

[RichEO]

The other player bet and drunken-Irish man called and flipped his cards over

so how is ruling his hand dead a good ruling?

...as he intentionally revealed his cards during the hand and this was obviously against the rules they were using.

it's heads up, A bets, B calls and flips his cards. that is not against the rules of any card room on the planet

course it is.

heads up in a pot in a cash game is fine.

Not always

[RichEO]

now that I understand kin's one I still think it's a horrible ruling. if you rule the hand dead then you are saying that deliberately exposing your hand is the same as folding. you can't give people penalties for folding

assuming the house rule is that you cannot show your hand then either it's a fold and you have no penalty or the hand is still live and you give a penalty after the hand for exposing cards but not a combination

if there were more than 2 players in the hand then ruling it as a fold and giving a penalty is acceptable as you're affecting the future action in the hand

This I like and hadn't really thought of.