Venetian Deepstacks Hand

[dino1980]

Got myself in an awkward spot yesterday would like some feedback on this hand...

Blinds are 800/1600/200, around 100/380 remain, at start of hand I've got 65k and villain has me well covered playing about 165k.

History: I've been at the table for about an hour, in that time villain has doubled his stack and you've seen him defend his BB with 5-2o against a late pos open from a 20bb stack, flop two pair and c/r all-in, you've also seen him limp QQ from utg+1 and get it in vs a 12bb A-Jo shove. I've opeend three pots since i've been there, winning one hand pre, folding to a 3-bet pre and played one hand against villain which went to showdown. In that hand he opeend to 4k from the HJ at at 600/1200/100, I flatted on the button (50k stack) with A-9dd. Board ran out A-K-x-x-J and I called his flop bet, turn and river went check, check and I showed A-9 and he mucked. Villain is early 30s, American of Indian origiin, dressed smartly and takes a long time to make any decision.

The Hand:
Pre: Folds to villain in cut-off who raises to 6,000. I'm in the small blind with  and decide to 3-bet to 16k with the intention to fold to a shove. Villain tanks, as usual, and flats. What do you thnk of my line here, should i flat or fold? Is my 3-bet size right?

Flop: (pot 36kish) Fliop comes 9-3-9 rainbow, with a stack of 49k (ish) how do you proceed?

[action man]

i bet like 14k

[MC]

Fold pre dude, SB not a good position for 3-betting AT off. Especially with your stack. I might be inclined to shove here with say AQ off.

If you had a bigger stack, 3-bet size is too small for me, 19-20k would be better.

You've got yourself in a really tough spot with an awkward size stack - because, as played, you simply have to bet this flop, which basically commits you to the hand.

Fold pre

[action man]

i dont think it commits him to the hand. i think can bet the flop 14k and leave 25 odd bb left. obv its not ideal but is villian likely to be jamming flop with less than AT

[MC]

i dont think it commits him to the hand. i think can bet the flop 14k and leave 25 odd bb left. obv its not ideal but is villian likely to be jamming flop with less than AT

Yeah I guess, this bet is probably the best option available, but it looks kinda weak, any worry of getting bluff jammed on?

[action man]

not a big worry, we have 3bet pre oop and cbet the flop.

[DaveShoelace]

i bet like 14k

So what? 13.5k? 14.25 k?

[MANTIS01]

Villain is giving action with a wide range of hands and has doubled his stack gambling in this way so will be feeling pretty confident. This guy calls raises with 5-2o and has a big enough stack to indulge his willingness to play. That said what is the purpose of the 3-bet? You will fold to a jam pre and your FE in making it another 10k looks pretty small imo. 3-betting is putting yourself in a tough spot for a bigger pot imo. Why not just flat? I know you're oop but it looks like villain gives up after one bet if he doesn't have it like in the A-9 hand, so position isn't a monster factor vs him as he wont use it effectively. As played c-bet a decent flop vs a wide range like the other guys have said.

[T_Mar]

Yeah I personaly dont think 3betting pre is that good in this spot with ~40bb, calling and playing a small pot seems the better option, as played you have to bet/fold now I think

[AlexMartin]

14k judge, jam turn?

fold and call pre are fine alternatives too i think. Actually maybe call given we keep in more dominated hands and we have seen his propensity for barreling so can be super happy when we flop top pair.

[MANTIS01]

Yeah I would fold this sometimes but reckon villain's range is too wide and his play too predictable to want to fold here.

[poonjoe]

Yeh seems like you 3-bet because you're ahead of his range but without thinking about how the hand will play out.

Folding pre would be nitty IMO and 3-betting puts us in a very difficult spot where any decent-sized bet commits us IMO. I don't like the idea of betting the flop then folding to a shove because a lot of the time this will be a mistake at the price you will be getting. Similarly you can't really check/raise the flop because he will feel committed with all the hands that beat you.

As played its not a good board for open shoving because he can find a call with his middling pairs, and will fold worse aces.

As played if I 3-bet here I would be looking for a K-x-x or Q-x-x board to shove if the flop didn't hit me.

The board coming 9-3-9 is good for giving up on and hoping that the strength you've shown pre will get you a couple of free cards and perhaps a free showdown. Its difficult for him to bluff you after you've 3-bet. I would check/fold flop and check/fold turn if it bricked.

I think you have to flat pre-flop and play the hand carefully from there. You have much more flexibility that way.

[bolt pp]

why did you change the title to nothing?

[The Camel]

I would never fold pre here unless it was Tiaky with the big stack.

I would usually call, but sometimes reraise.

Good flop for us I think, bet 2/3 pot.

If villain is supper aggro, I've been known to call a jam in spots like this (both pre and post flop)

[bolt pp]

I would never fold pre here unless it was Tiaky with the big stack.

I would usually call, but sometimes reraise.

Good flop for us I think, bet 2/3 pot.

If villain is supper aggro, I've been known to call a jam in spots like this (both pre and post flop)

and are you happy with leaving the title the same or would you change it a bit or delete it all together?