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« on: November 16, 2009, 12:42:24 PM » |
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FT live £100 tourney... 7 Left.. short stack allin with 3 callers me BB with 7 8 ...its another 9k into 45k to call...
I call...no side pot at the moment.
flop is low raggy 6 high everyone checks...
turn is an 8 and i make a 20k bet...chip leader calls ... there are 2 clubs but i also don't like my kicker in this spot... i feel he has to have something in this spot to call ..
the turn is a queen and i check it and he makes a biggish bet... i feel i must be beat by something like A 8 and i finally fold ..
allin man turns over his hand and has spiked bottom pair...chip leader has called and bet with king high no draw and the short stack scoops..
Am i wrong in thinking the chipleader has made a horrible play here?...he has made a small profit from our created side pot but his kept a man in and given him chips ?
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 12:47:47 PM » |
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Would need stack sizes and blinds.
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Ironside
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 12:50:36 PM » |
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also how many pay and how top heavy is it
sometimes as a big stack it helps to keep small stacks in that are trying to ladder
so you can accumulate chips
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 12:51:07 PM » |
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I'd say he's played it better than you
if you're bothered about knocking out the allin player then don't bet your own marginal hand
it seems a bit strange to be bothered by him keeping the shortie in when your turn bet could've done the exact same thing and got him to fold the winner
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 12:52:08 PM » |
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blinds 2k 4k C/l 200k me 80k
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 12:53:12 PM » |
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I'd say he's played it better than you
if you're bothered about knocking out the allin player then don't bet your own marginal hand
it seems a bit strange to be bothered by him keeping the shortie in when your turn bet could've done the exact same thing and got him to fold the winner
ive hit top pair and theres 45k in the pot... |
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 12:55:55 PM » |
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This should go check check all the way unless one of you has something near an unbeatable hand...
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Ironside
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2009, 01:01:21 PM » |
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This should go check check all the way unless one of you has something near an unbeatable hand...
why? |
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2009, 01:04:55 PM » |
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This should go check check all the way unless one of you has something near an unbeatable hand...
why? Two men are more likely to knock out the player out than one... |
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 01:07:09 PM » |
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blinds 2k 4k C/l 200k me 80k
wow fold pre! |
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the sicilian
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 01:09:59 PM » |
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blinds 2k 4k C/l 200k me 80k
wow fold pre! pre had just over 100k ..80k after the turn bet.... u don't call 9k more into 45k in the blinds with 4k invested last to act pre ? |
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 01:10:15 PM » |
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In all fairness you made the horrible play - the CL just capitalised on it
Why are you betting a dry side pot in a hand that you cannot continue with. You then develop a side pot, within which you are pot committed to any further action and then complain when the CL takes you off the side pot with a bluff?
Which part of the hand do you think you played ok?
If you arent prepared to go with your hand then you should be checking.
There is only a 'mistake' here if there is a bluff at the main pot with no side pot.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 01:10:33 PM » |
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This should go check check all the way unless one of you has something near an unbeatable hand...
why? Two men are more likely to knock out the player out than one... but if your the CL and everyone is playing scared as you aproach the bubble or they are all trying to ladder why would you want to knock a player out? you can increase your stack to give you an even better chance of winning the event |
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 01:17:58 PM » |
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blinds 2k 4k C/l 200k me 80k
wow fold pre! pre had just over 100k ..80k after the turn bet.... u don't call 9k more into 45k in the blinds with 4k invested last to act pre ? Not with 78, no |
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the sicilian
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2009, 01:20:31 PM » |
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In all fairness you made the horrible play - the CL just capitalised on it
Why are you betting a dry side pot in a hand that you cannot continue with. You then develop a side pot, within which you are pot committed to any further action and then complain when the CL takes you off the side pot with a bluff?
Which part of the hand do you think you played ok?
If you arent prepared to go with your hand then you should be checking.
There is only a 'mistake' here if there is a bluff at the main pot with no side pot.
I don't think i played it particularly well... i tried to pick up the 45k after hitting top pair with one card to come as i think I'm winning..now the chip leader comes looming over the horizon and I've no idea where i am.. his played it well by taking the created side pot away from me, but by me betting he has to know Ive something as he and 2 others are still to act... its a confusing situation as theres a decent pot to be had... if id bet with no hand that would have bee really bad.. I'm not sure why the other guy is getting involved with no hand.. |
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