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« on: December 12, 2005, 03:12:27 AM »

In a Pot-limit Omaha cash game you're dealtĀ  in early position. Blinds are $1/$2
You have $183. Everyone at the table, with the exception of the big blind, has at least this amount. The big blind has $38.

You raise to $6, 3 players call, including the small blind. The big blind re-raises the pot making it $38 to go, this puts him all-in.
You call, there's another caller, a folder, and then the small blind re-raises the pot putting you all-in.

I'd like to ask two questions...

What do you think of flat calling the $32?
Do you call the all-in?
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2005, 05:57:13 AM »

In my opinion the flat call of $32 was the correct play, as there is value and there still has been no flop.

As for folding to the all in I would have, It just seems like too much of a gamble. you leave your self no room to out play the other guy.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2005, 11:28:49 AM »

ok so now you know that the sb has AAxx and you are clear favourite to win the hand,

INSTANT call for me.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2005, 02:48:58 PM »

You have to put in $145 to win $310. Over 2-1 odds, at this point, if both the SB and BB have AAxx, you'll be a big favourite, especially if the SB's aces aren't suited in clubs or diamonds. But in the end it simply boils down to whether you're prepared to make this one gamble for all your chips.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2005, 02:57:31 PM »

This happens a lot in Omaha Cash Games.
The one thing i wouldnt have done here was make the early raise.
Also you need to know your players (some players re-raise with only AAxx, others can reraise with hands like 78910 etc) so knowing your players here would also add to your decision.

So to answering your questions-

The flat call for $32 seems fine to me.
I would call the all-in.


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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2005, 03:05:26 PM »

ok so now you know that the sb has AAxx and you are clear favourite to win the hand,

INSTANT call for me.

at best v AAxx your 47% to win the hand not a clear favourite (www.twodimes.net)

but with the value in the pot already its an easy call in a tounry you might want to think about about your stack but in a cash game easy call
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2005, 09:27:44 PM »

ok so now you know that the sb has AAxx and you are clear favourite to win the hand,

INSTANT call for me.

at best v AAxx your 47% to win the hand not a clear favourite (www.twodimes.net)

but with the value in the pot already its an easy call in a tounry you might want to think about about your stack but in a cash game easy call

im talking if the hand is 3-way....you are clear favourite

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2005, 01:57:33 AM »

I called, for the reasons stated above. I thought they both had AAxx.

Big blind had 

Small blind had  Ah

I later worked out that I was 32% for the $163 main pot and 42% for the $286 side pot
Total equity in the pot was therefore $172.16 if I called the $145. So I'm happy I made the call, even though I thought they'd both need AAxx for it to be correct.

Board was  two hearts

I won with my Q-high straight.



 
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2005, 04:17:20 AM »

Lucky river!!!  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2005, 04:50:43 AM »


The one thing i wouldnt have done here was make the early raise.



You wouldn't raise with  .

Mind if I ask why?
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2005, 04:53:54 AM »

i would in the later stages of a comp but in a cash game it's a hand i want to play a flop with
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2005, 04:56:49 AM »

Not even an icky-wicky raise to sweeten the pot?
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2005, 05:02:48 AM »

no because you dont get maximium impact of the implied odds
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2005, 05:42:24 AM »

But you might get more actual money if you raise.
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2005, 05:59:04 AM »

but the idea is to raise when your favourite not when your a dog andallow the fish to pay you off when your a favourite not when your a dog

with a hand like KQJTds your not likely to be favourite in a multi way pot preflop but when you hit your hand you are liklely to get fish drawing at you with 2 pair or a straight draw or even bare naked aces

PLO is about taking advantage when your favourite and getting out when your not
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