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« on: January 21, 2010, 09:48:00 PM »

25E rb, same table throughout, hero been pretty tight, shown AA and, erm AA. Reads on burgerking are he was trying to cultivate maniac image in rebuy period, seemed a lot tighter after, besides a hand where i raise a utg limper utg+1 w AA and he makes an enormous jam w JJ pre.



** Hand # 3100339574 starting - 2010-01-21 21:28:15
** €20,000 GTD WEEKDAY REBUY[3300887]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold'em] (250|500 NL - MTT) Real Money

snorky222 sitting in seat 1 with 5595.00[Dealer]
Kurre49 sitting in seat 2 with 23674.00
yobenike sitting in seat 3 with 3655.00
_HaMmerHead_ sitting in seat 4 with 25643.00
nufling sitting in seat 5 with 10515.00
odfjell sitting in seat 6 with 29117.00
BigEasy1 sitting in seat 8 with 14771.00
spyke56 sitting in seat 9 with 4365.00
burgerking24 sitting in seat 10 with 21170.00
Kurre49 ante'd - 25.00
yobenike ante'd - 25.00
_HaMmerHead_ ante'd - 25.00
nufling ante'd - 25.00
odfjell ante'd - 25.00
BigEasy1 ante'd - 25.00
spyke56 ante'd - 25.00
burgerking24 ante'd - 25.00
snorky222 ante'd - 25.00
Kurre49 posted the small blind - 125.00
yobenike posted the big blind - 250.00

** Dealing cards to _HaMmerHead_: Two Diamonds, two hearts
_HaMmerHead_ raised to 700.00
nufling folded
odfjell folded
BigEasy1 folded
spyke56 called - 700.00
burgerking24 called - 700.00
snorky222 folded
Kurre49 folded
yobenike folded

** Dealing the flop: , , two spades
_HaMmerHead_ checked
spyke56 went all-in - 3640.00
burgerking24 called - 3640.00
_HaMmerHead_ ?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 10:14:08 PM »

How long did he take to call? I think timing tells are hugely important in this situ. It's such a dry flop and we are really deep too so it's a pretty hard spot.

Looking back at the inital bet, it's a pretty big overbet, I guess that with his stack it is possible that he could make a call with  . I guess a big part of his range could be TPTK/88/99 kind of hands

He has 16.8k back and there is like 13k in the middle, if we flat here it would be pretty easy to get stacks in on the turn/river. Betting 5k on the turn, then jamming river? obv there can a few bad turn cards, but have to take into account SPRYKE's hand range that has lots of blockers.

If we do shove here we are only getting called by sets/67 so don't think I like to shove the flop.

I guess I go with

flop- flat.

turn- bet 6299

river- jam 10531

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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2010, 10:23:09 PM »

Also with deep stacks against an aggro opponent, I quite like a lead here trying to build a pot. No way we can get stacks in if the flop goes c/c
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 04:53:17 AM »

think you should def be leading the flop but as played i call and bet the turn for like 6k, and river i bet it all.

tbh it's going to be difficult to get money into the pot without looking super strong now given how the hand has played out, ul.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 12:28:54 PM »

think you should def be leading the flop but as played i call and bet the turn for like 6k, and river i bet it all.

tbh it's going to be difficult to get money into the pot without looking super strong now given how the hand has played out, ul.

if i lead this flop multiway with a shortie involved after opening utg you think i will look weaker than checking? Give the bigstack a range that he wll peel shorties jam with and compare to a range he will call my bet AND shorties jam with, thats the optimal line argument ur making (obv w some exceptions). Its not really close imo, given that i will never be cbetting light with the shortie involved, which lets other guy play pretty perfectly with his medium strength 1 pair hands (ie the bulk of his range).

the pot is now 35bb, when the ave stack is 30bb, think getting chips into the pot wasnt really a problem imo, but would like ur thoughts on why u think leading is better.

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