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« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2010, 09:20:26 PM » |
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what's all this talk about implied odds? the original raiser has 23bb and opened for a full 3x...68s is a very easy fold pre?
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« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2010, 03:39:36 AM » |
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or maybe more importantly how often will he miss his?
Ah so we just going to soul read him to find out if he has AQ/AK or a PP? |
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« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2010, 03:43:33 AM » |
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what's all this talk about implied odds? the original raiser has 23bb and opened for a full 3x...68s is a very easy fold pre?
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« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2010, 09:44:58 AM » |
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or maybe more importantly how often will he miss his?
Ah so we just going to soul read him to find out if he has AQ/AK or a PP? you are assuming that everyone plays aggresively, has bags of cash, a couldnt care less attitude to cashing and huge balls he will let me know if he has it (most of the time - sigh) |
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« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2010, 10:07:33 AM » |
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or maybe more importantly how often will he miss his?
Ah so we just going to soul read him to find out if he has AQ/AK or a PP? you are assuming that everyone plays aggresively, has bags of cash, a couldnt care less attitude to cashing and huge balls he will let me know if he has it (most of the time - sigh) Guy if you're so sure you've played it right why is this on PHA? To prove villian played it badly? |
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« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2010, 10:15:11 AM » |
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or maybe more importantly how often will he miss his?
Ah so we just going to soul read him to find out if he has AQ/AK or a PP? you are assuming that everyone plays aggresively, has bags of cash, a couldnt care less attitude to cashing and huge balls he will let me know if he has it (most of the time - sigh) Guy if you're so sure you've played it right why is this on PHA? To prove villian played it badly? I am not so sure i have played it right, that is why i posted There are many things i have taken from the comments on this thread that will improve the way i play this spot next time There is nothing wrong with challenging thinking. FLushys comment re soul reading was unnecessary. |
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« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2010, 10:53:43 AM » |
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But it's accurate. You say we can call and take the pot away if he misses? But how do we know if he's missed? There's 30k or so in pot and villain has ~50k left. If he bets then how do we find out what he has? Villain only has 1 more bullet left, and you've no idea if it's going in or not. Even if he checks he could easily be doing a c/r to try and get his stack in. In short I don't think the stacks are deep enough to be trying to outplay a shortish stack postflop. PS if I've mixed stack sizes or positions up it's cos you did the whole hero=villain thing. Next time just post hand from your pov rather than a "how can he call???" thread  |
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« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2010, 11:19:42 AM » |
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calling pre here is optimistic to say the least
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« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2010, 12:08:38 PM » |
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or maybe more importantly how often will he miss his?
If he misses his hand you can chuck your implied odds straight out the window. Therefore you're looking to hit a pair + combo off the 2 remaining flop cards which isn't going to happen often. |
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« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2010, 05:07:24 PM » |
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you are assuming that everyone plays aggresively, has bags of cash, a couldnt care less attitude to cashing and huge balls
he will let me know if he has it (most of the time - sigh)
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« Reply #55 on: February 11, 2010, 08:35:10 PM » |
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Good thread, just wanted to say excellent spot by Dubai
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« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2010, 03:24:55 AM » |
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when people say i will put u all in, i usually call without looking at the board
Its just always a massive weak tell for majority of people that say it. Hence why I said this before any results were known So am in tourney at walsall in BB with 68o.......limped to me and I check. Flop comes 842 rainbow....I bet 1500 and the guy in early position says "I will put u all in" for 10k more.....just as I am about to push this thread comes to mind....so I decide to call......sadly he has a set of tens....maybe he had read the thread too and was using nth level thinking...Nevermind I was tired anyway!!!! |
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« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2010, 02:40:55 PM » |
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its a void hand if he has a set of 10s on a 8 high board
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« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2010, 03:33:37 PM » |
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its a void hand if he has a set of 10s on a 8 high board
gah! I noticed this last night but was on my phone so couldn't quote it. Was meant to bring it up today but forgot about it  |
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« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2010, 02:27:16 AM » |
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sorry set of twos.
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