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« on: February 28, 2010, 04:40:28 PM »

What would be considered a good roi for DoNs at the following levels?, assuming a rake of 10%

$1
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$10
$20
$30
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 04:49:52 PM »

anything over 10% is good at any level. much over 15% is awesome but probs unsustainable
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 07:35:38 PM »

I don't really know as I don't play them, but I would have thought that a 10% ROI would be massive (ie all but unachievable) these days for games at $10+, given a 10% rake. For STTs in general it feels like 5% is the new 10%, and I guess margins in DONs must be narrower than in standard games. I'd say break-even before rakeback is probably pretty decent at anything $30+ with a 10% rake, but as I say I'm kind of just guessing.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 07:38:10 PM »

I don't really know as I don't play them, but I would have thought that a 10% ROI would be massive (ie all but unachievable) these days for games at $10+

Pretty sure you're right.

I think 5% is good, especially at $20+
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 07:50:55 PM »

10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level

better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 08:06:36 PM »

10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level

better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though

Think you'll find a different story if you sharkscope regs on PokerStars and such...
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 08:16:15 PM »

probably but then I wouldn't be playing them on stars. until they bored me to death I played a lot of these on soft sites. the few good regs were at around 10%, then quite a few breakeven and a lot of big losers

I think the losers stay in the game and keep reloading because even the worst players are probably cashing about 40% of the time
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 12:43:53 AM »

10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level

better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though

Think you'll find a different story if you sharkscope regs on PokerStars and such...
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I'm playing some on ipoker to clear a bonus and they are sick soft. Over a tiny sample i'm cashing around 66% of the time. The higher volume regs are very bad too.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 11:37:21 AM »

10% is def achievable, it's a 60.5% winrate @ 10%juice, but only a few of the best regs will be at this level

better off playing for 5% juice when you only need 57.5% though
Think you'll find a different story if you sharkscope regs on PokerStars and such...
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I'm playing some on ipoker to clear a bonus and they are sick soft. Over a tiny sample i'm cashing around 66% of the time. The higher volume regs are very bad too.

I disagree that these are sick soft anywhere above the $30 level.  I was running at around 58/59% over a decent sample size a few months back and no regs at the $50 level were doing any better.

With 55% being the exact break even point (unless your playing the $100+9 where its 54.5%) before RB, many just play these now for the RB purely
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 11:53:35 AM »

Where does it say anything about over $30 games. OP clearly states it's the lower levels.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 12:00:56 PM »

Where does it say anything about over $30 games. OP clearly states it's the lower levels.

ok then, I mean once you get to $30+ I don't think the standard much different.

Its generally the same players playing the 30/50/100's, a winrate of 57/58% at $30+ is doing well imo.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 12:17:41 PM »

Where does it say anything about over $30 games. OP clearly states it's the lower levels.

ok then, I mean once you get to $30+ I don't think the standard much different.

Its generally the same players playing the 30/50/100's, a winrate of 57/58% at $30+ is doing well imo.
Ah ok, no probs
I was looking at the levels listed and as i'm playing pretty low, though probs still above bankroll, and it's probs worth me moving up for a smaller roi but bigger hourly.
My sample way too small but running well over 20%
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 12:41:22 PM »

My sample way too small but running well over 20%

I think we can all agree that that's not sustainable
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