Trivial fold without any reads?

[George2Loose]

Full Tilt Poker Game #19504510702: Turbo $50K Guarantee (147211894), Table 23 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:04:02 ET - 2010/03/23
Seat 1: George2Loose (1,985)
Seat 2: NASCAR_1949 (1,955)
Seat 3: Hesperides (2,000)
Seat 4: metfan4590 (1,955)
Seat 5: romulas84 (1,895)
Seat 6: DHM0219 (2,120)
Seat 8: Payton3434 (2,045)
Seat 9: TigBitties2 (2,045)
DHM0219 posts the small blind of 15
Payton3434 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ As]
TigBitties2 folds
George2Loose raises to 90
NASCAR_1949 folds
Hesperides folds
metfan4590 calls 90
romulas84 folds
DHM0219 folds
Payton3434 folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
George2Loose bets 120
metfan4590 calls 120
*** TURN *** [ ] []
George2Loose checks
metfan4590 checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] [Ah]
Xbacco81 sits down
Xbacco81 adds 2,000
George2Loose has 15 seconds left to act
George2Loose bets 350
metfan4590 has 15 seconds left to act
metfan4590 raises to 800

[Dubai]

I have no idea what he can have so i call.

[marcin123]

sigh call...

[outragous76]

metfan is the luckiest player alive  - obv 44

i fold

[Blatch]

I have no idea what he can have so i call.

  ldo

[Dubai]

Cant have AhTh cos Ah is on the board
Cant have AsTs cos we have the As
Cant have AdTd because he surely bets the turn or raises the flop
Cant have AcTc cos the is on the board.

Hence he cant have ATs. And we can assume he folds ATos pre. Therefore we lose to boats and quads.

[Blatch]

Cant have AhTh cos Ah is on the board
Cant have AsTs cos we have the As
Cant have AdTd because he surely bets the turn or raises the flop
Cant have AcTc cos the is on the board.

Hence he cant have ATs. And we can assume he folds ATos pre. Therefore we lose to boats and quads.

Stop assuming your playing a 1/2 decent player

[Dubai]

I just assume we are playing a standard mtt player who's range preflop is narrow and polarised and who's postflop abilites are barely existent

[Blatch]

I just assume we are playing a standard mtt player who's range preflop is narrow and polarised and who's postflop abilites are barely existent

This is why your my hero and why I stake you online

[Doobs]

If you think his post flop skills are terrible, then why do you think he has managed to pull off a bluff that makes his hand look very much like a full house?

I call here as I can't put hands down, but I am pretty sure I will behind more often than in front and it is a pot odds thing.

99% of poker players play abc on the river (c) Dubai on numerous occasions

[MC]

I think it's a call.

His line just makes no sense for any of the hands that beat us except mayyyyybbbeeee A7s. Donks can have stuff like 89s and just random stuff here a decent amount.

[Blatch]

I think it's a call.

His line just makes no sense for any of the hands that beat us except mayyyyybbbeeee A7s. Donks can have stuff like 89s and just random stuff here a decent amount.

Really?

Surely the average online donk bluffs more than ~2.3x of our river bet.

His virtual min raise here has to be A4 soooooooted minimum???

I would be amazed if we are winning here 15% of the time.

[GreekStein]

agree with atkin.

[  ] folding

[Blatch]

agree with atkin.

[  ] folding

oh come on what can he seriously have that we beat?  The silly raise on the river basically says oh der nutzz.

The fact he has checked behind on the turn when the board has paired up, surely says he has filled up or quaded up?

Remember this is ya average online donk

[MC]

I think it's a call.

His line just makes no sense for any of the hands that beat us except mayyyyybbbeeee A7s. Donks can have stuff like 89s and just random stuff here a decent amount.

LOL.

I misread this hand.

I thought he just whammed in 2k and put us all in on the river.

Sigh, I still call but pretty much the same as Dubai's reasoning...and I think he has AQ/AJ or something random we beat enough of the time for it to be an okay call...