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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2010, 11:38:47 AM » |
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Why didn't you bet the flop out of interest? Enough hands in villians range that you beat (given read) that would continue (gutshots and Jx with diamond etc)... seems like a good spot to continue betting? Not ideal if he c/r's but cant see it being terrible getting 24bb in here, given all the big draws he can have?
villain can c/r all in with nothing and George prob doesnt want to have to call Sry bud, but I dont know what you mean here? |
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2010, 11:43:25 AM » |
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So rather than have Dubai syndrome let's give oppo a bit of credit and assume he's a good player.
Any chance he could be betting here to induce a bluff?
Our line doesn't look too strong so if he hits big on the river he's going to struggle to get paid.
So he bets really small hoping that we call with a weak holding because he's made it so cheap. He's also assessed our line and realised that if he's lucky we may be setting up a bluff on the river and now he's set the trap for us.
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2010, 11:52:30 AM » |
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FWIW - dubai syndrome was very much a compliment to dubai - but he often gives opponents too much credit imo
Tmar - i dont think george is happy getting it in to a check raise flop bet with his holding - the villain on the other hand would happily do this with any big D or even air is he was of that mindset
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2010, 12:13:23 PM » |
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FWIW - dubai syndrome was very much a compliment to dubai - but he often gives opponents too much credit imo
Tmar - i dont think george is happy getting it in to a check raise flop bet with his holding - the villain on the other hand would happily do this with any big D or even air is he was of that mindset
Isn't that an argument for getting it in? |
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2010, 12:19:45 PM » |
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i think this is a fold preflop, ur hand is never gona play great postflop and you are gona be in a lot of marginal spots like this. Im sure there are better spots (dead money) to pick than this. think you are gona get snapped a high % of the time. How often are u and villian going to showdown?
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2010, 02:34:52 PM » |
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i think this is a fold preflop, ur hand is never gona play great postflop and you are gona be in a lot of marginal spots like this. Im sure there are better spots (dead money) to pick than this. think you are gona get snapped a high % of the time. How often are u and villian going to showdown?
We've got an ace and there's only us and 2 other players left. We are probably ahead. We don't like folding when we are probably ahead. The hand might not play great post flop but we have position so that can be offset. There won't be many better dead money spots than when it folds round to our button. We aren't often expecting to get to showdown. We are expecting to win it well before then without anyone ever seeing our cards. |
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2010, 04:19:42 PM » |
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Anyway where is dubai when you need his over analysed genius!
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 04:42:38 PM » |
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Anyway where is dubai when you need his over analysed genius!
Donating to ME at the GUKPT Vic. Just lost half his stack apparently - woul love to see Dave win a ME of one of the legs. |
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 05:16:09 PM » |
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I back dubai live btw
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2010, 05:22:27 PM » |
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i know where you are coming from evil with regards to position, but george is only 24bbs at the start of the hand with 21-22k on the flop with 6k in the middle after villian calls, i think the valuee of position here is over rated here when the stacks are this shallow, also if the guy is half decent he is going to be 3betting a lot in this spot, aswell as flatting with a lot of hands that have us crushed.
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2010, 05:32:33 PM » |
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Open shipping is plus ev but not a play I like
Gribbo I can't agree with your thinking. I would consider calling a 3 bet jam never mind just raising
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2010, 06:19:31 PM » |
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If we think oppo might 3 bet light we should be raising A2s to induce the shove.
Position isn't as important when you're not deep but 24 bigs is deep enough to see a flop and have decisions on the streets.
Would much rather have those decisions on the button.
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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2010, 07:05:07 PM » |
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TBH I don't like opening with Ace rag in LP but like all tourney noobs feel compelled too. Plus I wasn't getting 3 bet too much when opening from LP so was opening a fair amount
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2010, 11:24:16 PM » |
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you have the button and a suited Ace i don't think pre is even debateable vs randoms.
however, you rep absolutely f all on river george wp
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2010, 06:14:19 AM » |
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I back dubai live btw
I'll send you the bill then. |
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