Eurovision Song Contest 2013

[TheDazzler]

I just scrolled through all my bets there, not a winner amongst them.
Not only that but I actually laid my flatmate 7/2 on Hungary finishing in the top 10. He said Germany will give them 12 points (which they did!) and they also squeezed into 10th place on the 2nd last round of voting.
Absolute disaster, worst betting result of the year.

[AndrewT]

Reposting this here, because Tank doesn't wander this way much any more.

"I hope Bonnie Tyler doesn't take this too badly. I hear that every now and then she falls apart..."

[Chompy]

OK, kids, post-mortem time. What can we learn for next year?

The clues are there. By the time we get to Eurovision week the value has gone. We need to pick up on this shit earlier.

I expect you all to have bought and thoroughly listened to the Eurovision CD on the day of release next year and contribute to the 45 page goldmine thread that will result.

As for this year, genuine thanks to Chompy for his tip for the Melodifestivalen - that has more than paid for my ineffectual dabbling in the main event this year - a lot of fun has been had.

Yw sir. Robin winning Melodifestivalen was the highlight of my puntering year so far. Gave it all back on the main event but shit happens. Can't crush it every year.

Discussed Denmark with Paul Jones soon after the entries came out, at which time it was 7/1. A friend of his had told him it was nailed on. We were both pretty meh about it.

[AndrewT]

The thing I will take away is that the songs which I'd initially dismissed that did well (Denmark, Azerbaijan), when it came to the night, I thought 'actually, this is quite good'.

I certainly had it in my mind that Eurovision was something decided by kneejerk reactions to the first hearing of songs, whereas, on the continent, many many people have heard these songs on the radio/TV for weeks beforehand.

Next year, I need to listen to stuff lots before deciding.

[Ant040689]

not sure Ireland deserved to be rock bottom

[AndrewT]

not sure Ireland deserved to be rock bottom

Nah - it was shit and Ireland has no bloc vote to fall back on.

[Ant040689]

not sure Ireland deserved to be rock bottom

Nah - it was shit and Ireland has no bloc vote to fall back on.

Fair play.

How was the voting weighted? Am I right in saying it was a mix between the phone/mobile votes and esteemed judges from each country?

[The Camel]

Should go back to just juries voting.

Public voting means half the field can't win.

[AndrewT]

Yeah, there was a jury that voted on the dress rehearsal last night (50%) and 50% on the phone votes.

The semifinal results are on the Eurovision site now and they must keep those results tight, because anyone with access to them can win the world.

Finland (who was thought to do well) only scraped in in 9th place. The top 3 in semi 1 were Denmark, Russia, Ukraine and in Semi 2 were Azerbaijan, Greece, Norway. These were the top 6 in the final.

[AndrewT]

I think it actually works well.

Generally, the best songs finished at the top (except for Chompy's boyfriend).

[Chompy]

I think it actually works well.

Generally, the best songs finished at the top (except for Chompy's boyfriend).

Semi results were leaked on Greek TV the year Finland won it. Sure we all remember that scandal.

Weirdest thing this week was Denmark being 6/4 to win the whole thing and 7/4 to win their semi. Still can't work that one out.

[AndrewT]

Who is up for a Blondebash in Copenhagen next year?

[matt_damon]

I bet on Denmark because it was pretty catchy plus had lots of views on YouTube. Did the same with Lena a few years ago. Easy game eh.

No idea why Finland did so badly. Expected better from that one. Also that Netherlands song was awful - only explanation was that Anouk is already quite popular.

[booder]

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