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Ironside
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« on: April 29, 2010, 08:19:15 PM »

is my line fine here?

only history was previous hand when
we played a small pot in the blinds AJ v 22 which my 22 took down

Full Tilt Poker Game #20451853010: $14,500 Guarantee (Rebuy) (156963664), Table 82 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:07:01 ET - 2010/04/29
Seat 1: aito kakkalahti (23,349)
Seat 2: Bonds252525 (14,397)
Seat 3: uglytuna1 (45,388)
Seat 4: byrzya (18,208)
Seat 5: andreis1985 (13,490)
Seat 6: wuqi3159 (28,342)
Seat 7: XDIRTYDEREKX (27,935)
Seat 8: IronsideBLONDE (23,893)
Seat 9: pKw0 (14,449)
aito kakkalahti antes 50
Bonds252525 antes 50
uglytuna1 antes 50
byrzya antes 50
andreis1985 antes 50
wuqi3159 antes 50
XDIRTYDEREKX antes 50
IronsideBLONDE antes 50
pKw0 antes 50
pKw0 posts the small blind of 200
aito kakkalahti posts the big blind of 400
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IronsideBLONDE [ ]
Bonds252525 folds
uglytuna1 folds
byrzya folds
andreis1985 folds
wuqi3159 folds
XDIRTYDEREKX folds
IronsideBLONDE raises to 1,000
pKw0 raises to 3,200
aito kakkalahti folds
IronsideBLONDE calls 2,200
*** FLOP *** [ Two Clubs]
pKw0 has 15 seconds left to act
pKw0 bets 3,555
IronsideBLONDE raises to 10,800
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 08:23:59 PM »

once you call pre i guess the flop is fine, but i don't think i like the call pre
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 08:34:33 PM »

Looks fine to me although the peel pre is probably dependant on history villian. Are you planning on folding if you miss?
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 08:41:50 PM »

yeah if missed i aint got too much invested and i have a reasonable stack comapred to average

would love to keep it small in missed as in previous which was less than 5k
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 08:47:49 PM »

i dont like folding the kq on the button there as it means i am turning the KQ into a bluff and need to be making same play with any2
now with different stack sizes and different stage of tourny i would make play with ne2 but i dont think is the case here
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 02:32:08 AM »

i dont like folding the kq on the button there as it means i am turning the KQ into a bluff and need to be making same play with any2
now with different stack sizes and different stage of tourny i would make play with ne2 but i dont think is the case here

Not necessarily. The blinds may opt to just call, which is a completely different scenario to one of them 3betting. Against a flat call KQ plays nicely in position. Against a 3bet, not so much.

As for actual hand:

I don't think I like the call pre here. Given villains stack size i'm inclined to just get it in pre, but this is villain dependent. As played tho we're obv going nowhere on this flop.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 04:17:11 AM »

dont like raising without history/read, we generally only get jammed on by better, stop him barreling and at this point in time are generally w/a. given stack we let him jam into us on the turn and get it in v his range in much better shape, raising just lets him play perfectly.

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 09:48:33 AM »

yeah if missed i aint got too much invested and i have a reasonable stack comapred to average

would love to keep it small in missed as in previous which was less than 5k

If your gonna fold when you miss and jam when you hit you're gonna be making an extra 3,555 on the occasions you hit and fold out your oppo. That doesn't make playing the hand this way profitable imo. Also figure in the times you hit and get it in dominated which seems more likely with the respective stacks unless villain is known spewy, and A-J pot shows villain isn't spewy. Fold pre. As played call flop.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 11:36:04 AM »

i hate the flop raise, as played just call.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 04:13:48 PM »

just keep calling post flop, not right keen on raising
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 04:16:24 PM »

Dont like the pre action here but once called I probably flat the flop as you probably arent going to get any "good" action.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 10:20:01 PM »

question pre flop play wt mindset of only continuing if hit but after flop think its standard play! oh btw congrats on winning the hand !
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 10:36:51 PM »

question pre flop play wt mindset of only continuing if hit but after flop think its standard play! oh btw congrats on winning the hand !

think i lost this one
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 10:49:32 PM »

question pre flop play wt mindset of only continuing if hit but after flop think its standard play! oh btw congrats on winning the hand !

think i lost this one
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 01:43:15 AM »

I don't get why we're raising flop?

I think calling down would be pretty standard here.
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