Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[arbboy]

thetwoone - someone speaks sense.  WP my friend.  It took that level of aggro/needle like you say for this to come to a head.  I dont enjoy being hated by people i could easily sit with every month at dtd/gukpts/stars events.  However when it became insanely obviously that he was at it via the numerous posts/questions asked.  Although no friends directly were involved financially mainly because i marked their card months ago, i knew a lot of their friends were who are genuine kids, were and for big amounts.  I am still gob smacked tbh that people are having a go at my aggressive stance when it was obvious this was going to be the only way to slow the blatch steam train.

[Nico29]

nico 29 - read this from james williams (cotton bud) who i advised not to invest in this alongside several other online pros at the same time nearly a year ago.  James is a very respected poster on here and came 2nd in the main event at gukpt bpool last year.  

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Wow I'm absolutely appalled by what has happened here and I feel so sorry for those who have invested some whom are my friends from Poker. This is so ridiculous I cannot believe this has actually happened. Me and my friend were going to invest in Blatch a while back but after getting Arrboys advice we decided against it, when I saw Blatch was posting no screen shots of winnings etc it just seemed to me so much trust related when I didn't even know the guy.

Having been at the DTD party that Arrboy mentioned I spoke to Blatch a little then he seemed like a nice enough guy. But now I have seen all this I am absolutely gob smacked and I'd like to thank my friend Arrboy for getting me not to invest and after hearing he was banned from the forum I think thats totally shocking he is one of the top dogs when it comes to sports betting and knows his stuff inside out. It's such a shame its had to come to this for people to find out the truth. I hope Blatch does the decent thing and tries to earn your money back for u guys gl to all.  
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if being 'bbeing abusive  and aggressive is what it took to 'out' this crim why would anyone clearly care.  Some peoples attitudes on here really are insane.  Makes me wonder why i bothered.

FFS.

Look u r such a name dropper and so results based.

I know james- top bloke, although when pissed we can argue a great deal, but yeh he's a great guy.

He's your mate though, doesn't mean because he's had poker results-so have most ppl- that everything he will thus say is correct, altho here it seems fine.

Jees, yeah you did well in uncovering this, if indirectly.

But what do you want from this, ppl to bow down and applaud you forever? I mean do you understand what GIQ means?

You have to understand that there alot of ppl hurting out there, you are just constantly bringing up how great u are and were etc etc.

Sometimes by being quiet for a while you'll get all the lauding you obviously crave. By going on and on like a duracel bunny you sound attention seeking.

But one more time for ya....well done,

[The Camel]

keith - i was referring to staff having their hands in the till rather than armed robbery's at betting shops.  That is a lot more close to what had happened here (although still diff) than an armed robbery. Sorry for the confusion.

Again, it's to disuade potential crooks doing the same.

I just think this story is too complicated for an average person to understand so they would leave it.

Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt alot of non punters would really care about one gambler stealing from a group of other gamblers.

[The Camel]

was he even an accountant or was that bullshit too? george met him what 2.5 years ago playing poker in a casino? does anyone know him from before this? any schoolfriends, work colleagues, ex girlfriends, anything?

it's all over the internet saying he was an accountant when he won some donkament, when did he say he left work to become a trader?

Guys I said I wouldn't comment on this thread again but I want to help where I can. Yesterday was very tough for me but I've spent the majority of the weekend with my family and it's really helped put things into perspective.

I first met Neil at the local gala casino in leicester. he was one of the better players there (which wasn't difficult admittedly). Soon after Kev invited me to play at Paul's homegame (made infamous after I won the notts leg of the tour and then neil won the bristol leg). We played together week in week out. Neil was working at the time- I have no idea exactly what but I know it was in finance. This continued until around Xmas time last year when he quit his job to go into trading.

He made no bones about the fact he had gone busto trying this before but seemed to know what he was doing. I know sweet fa about sports trading but he would always let us know when he got the lot- he was also quick to say when he lost chunks. I remember him telling me in 2009 (before this staking thread) about how he lost 8k on one frame of snooker. He was quite calm about it- this lead me to believe that his bankroll was swelling- I mean if he could afford to lose that much on one frame of snooker he must have been doing ok?

He then started taking on horses of which I believe Greeky and evilpie were the first. I warned him about the potential outlay (not least because I've seen both play) but he didn't seem worried. He said he would probably take on more during this time. I didn't have any reason to believe he was a scam artist. I know he came accross as a cocky twat but that wasn't the relationship I had with him- we were great mates and dreamed of really making it on the poker circuit.

Right up until the end I trusted him. I booked a holiday to vegas, direct flights and accommodation and paid for it all in the belief I'd get the dollars back in Vegas. On my part I have written the debt off- there will be no mates getting paid back first.

 I rang him two days before this all came out. I asked him if he'd spent the money- if it was gone. He said it was all still there- arbboy just had a vendetta against him hence my posts defending him just before this all came to light.

There are lessons to be learnt from all of this. I have spoken to him this morning and will continue to stay in touch with him and try and help him. You might think I'm stupid/naive/dumb/a conner myself but I can't hang a friend out to dry after 5 years. Please try and think what would you do if you best friend did this?

I would personally like to thank the messages of support I've received. I'll be honest- I'm not sure whether I'll play the tour in the near future or go Vegas- I have no idea what sort of reception I'm going to get and this whole episode has turned me off poker as it probably has many others. This year was supposed to be my year. Our year. It was my first time to Vegas going with my two best buddies in the world- Kev and Neil.

You really are a top bloke George.

Neil is very very lucky to have a friend like you.

[arbboy]

keith i think its 'what price is it for this to go to court?' if it goes to court the main stream press cover it for sure.  Whats your view on the likelihood on this going to court?

[Sighmuns]

You really are a top bloke George.

Neil is very very lucky to have a friend like you.

100% agree. It goes without saying that Neil doesn't deserve a friend like you. 

[George2Loose]

Just one more thing then I'll shut up

I did ask Neil to hand himself into the police this morning.

[The Camel]

keith i think its 'what price is it for this to go to court?' if it goes to court the main stream press cover it for sure.  Whats your view on the likelihood on this going to court?

Originally I thought it was very unlikely to go to court, but as more and more evidence is being unearthed by Floppy that makes it look like a pre meditated con rather than a spin up that went wrong I reckon it's almost certain he'll go to court.

However, he will equally almost certainly plead guilty so there will be no trial to cover.

The evidence is really complicated, imagine trying explain this thread to your mum or someone who had never placed a bet, let alone traded a football match. They just wouldn't understand.

[OhMy]

You really are a top bloke George.

Neil is very very lucky to have a friend like you.

100% agree. It goes without saying that Neil doesn't deserve a friend like you. 

I'd like to think that deep down most of us would do the same for our 'bessies'. Doesn't mean we condone their behaviour, but I for one would definitely stick by those closest to me!

[tropicana]

keith i think its 'what price is it for this to go to court?' if it goes to court the main stream press cover it for sure.  Whats your view on the likelihood on this going to court?

Originally I thought it was very unlikely to go to court, but as more and more evidence is being unearthed by Floppy that makes it look like a pre meditated con rather than a spin up that went wrong I reckon it's almost certain he'll go to court.

However, he will equally almost certainly plead guilty so there will be no trial to cover.

The evidence is really complicated, imagine trying explain this thread to your mum or someone who had never placed a bet, let alone traded a football match. They just wouldn't understand.

guy asked for money to bet and said he was winning
guy got more money
guy starting losing a bit
people got suspicious after almost a year
money was all gone

[arbboy]

yes i know.  I was thinking regarding the karry finlay stuff that legal people just dont understand bf and betting at all.  How finlay got banned is still beyond me when he was only laying to leverage a bigger price effectively on his back which was much bigger.  If legal teams cant see that then this is 100 times from complicated.

[The Camel]

yes i know.  I was thinking regarding the karry finlay stuff that legal people just dont understand bf and betting at all.  How finlay got banned is still beyond me when he was only laying to leverage a bigger price effectively on his back which was much bigger.  If legal teams cant see that then this is 100 times from complicated.

Remember the Fallon/Williams/Lynch etc trial?

The lawyers and police worked on that case for well over a year.

And still didn't understand the first thing about gambling/trading on betfair.

And you would have thought they would be pretty bright guys.

Joe Average just wouldn't understand.

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[herotozero]

get magnum p.i on this, he,ll sort it

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