Oooooh, what to doooo?

[thetank]

Final 3 in a tournament, I have a stack of 14k in the small blind. BB has 30k, button has 70k. Blinds are 1k/2k.

Button flat calls the 2k, I have  and flat call. The BB checks.

Flop comes     . I decide to bet 8k, pretty much pot commiting myself with only 4k left behind. (or so I thought)
Big blind raises all-in, Button calls! Arghh, call or fold with the following prize structure?

3rd place £125
2nd place £210
1st place £340 + Super System 2 (which I've already got)

[Royal Flush]

pass

[thetank]

Bit more information on it, Button didn't call immediately, took him just over a minute.
When he did, Big blind didn't look too happy about it.

[lvlarc_uk]

Fold., Button wins with flush.

[thetank]

I passed, big blind showed  , button showed  . Big blind didn't hit and we were heads up.

I didn't make a miracle comeback with my 4k left and finished in 2nd.

[NoflopsHomer]

Even though you're ahead, they've a lot of cards to hit.

[thetank]

It was hard to pass with 21/2 on my money though. It worked out, as the fold bumped me up to 2nd but I'm still not convinced I made the correct play.

[NoflopsHomer]

I don't like the bet in itself, I think either you should move all-in or check.

[Timaloy]

I never knew you had the 8 in that hand Tank.  I think a check with middle pr first to act would have been the best play because of ur short stack and you would get some information from the bb because i was to act after him and had him coverd, hard to say, he could still have made the allin move regardless of you checking or not but at least then you have an oppertunity to get away from it if i called and save 8k in chips.

I prob wouldnt have called if i didnt think you where pot commited but the chance to knock the 2 of you out and still have a big enough stack to compete if i lost the hand made the decision in my mind.

But the way to hand unfolded i think you where right to fold rather than toss ur last few chips in and finnish 3rd, imo as a sever short stack the main objective is to hope the 2 big stacks clash and you move up the money ladder.

[WellChief]

I agree I don't like the bet either.  Don't see the point in making a bet which commits you to the pot then not calling.  Might as well go all in or check and see what happens.

[thetank]

I never knew you had the 8 in that hand Tank. 

When another 8 hit the river, I thought it best to hush up that I packed the best hand.

I fully intended to stick my last 4k in chips if I was raised. I only passed because I felt strongly that Big blind ws on a draw. It was perhaps a weak fold.

The reason I made the bet, instead of the all-in play was that an all-in bet is usually percieved as one that does not want a call. I though betting 8k would show more strength, and more likely to get a drawing hand to pass. Didn't work out for me that time, think I made it against the wrong player,  the big blind going all-in over the top with 6 high flush draw as if he expects me to pass for 4k more. (ok I did, but that's not the point)

[WellChief]

Does it show strength though tank?  Surely with your stack you want a drawing hand to call you to get a chance to double up.  And can you really see a player at CinCin's folding a draw here?  Stick them in and hope for the best.

[thetank]

Granted, it turned out to be a bad play, but that's why I made it at the time.

Surely with your stack you want a drawing hand to call you to get a chance to double up. 

In tournaments I'd rather win the 18k every time than 30k when the draw misses. I'm rooting for a fold from a good draw in this situation. At that point, I think I had one showdown the whole final table, that's the kind of low volatility poker I like to play in tournaments.

[Timaloy]

I agree, but i had so many chips on that last hand and I totaly miss read the bb, i thought he had the jack I really couldnt put him on the flush draw when he reraised to put you allin and he had to go through me to do that so i put him on a made hand, was pretty shocked when he turn over 6 high "wow im ahead with 9 high" were the words.

I thought you hit the jack and when he came over the top for all his chips i really put him on the jack or 2pr then lost sight of you.

I didnt really understand the logic behind what he was doing.

[thetank]

His play was poor, there was no real logic behind his move. Don't worry too much about mis-reading him.

I thought you hit the jack

I don't feel to bad about betting the 8k now, I tried to represent a Jack, an all-in would have represented a draw IMHO. What would have been your move if the big blind passed Timaloy?