Interesting hand with James Keys in the DTD £300 deepstack

[LB44]

Had and interesting hand with James Keys at the last DTD £300 deepstack.

Both start the hand with around 10,000/11,000 chips.
I havent done anything major in level 1, keys had been raising alot from button and hijack.

Blinds 50/100 no ante
Keys opens from hijack to 275 with  
I call out the BB with  

Flop  
I check
Keys bets 375
I raise to 875
Keys calls

Turn    
Pot = 2350

I bet 1500
Keys calls

River  
Pot = 5350

I bet 3000

Keys tank, calls with Queen high and takes the pot.

Any thoughts?

[TightEnd]

Hi Luke

stack sizes, approx, would be good


Next time, give us half the hand and then the rest later...makes for a good discussion

[outragous76]

live misclick obv

(well that or soul read............. you decide)

[StuartHopkin]

Keys is god

If you try to do a bluff on him you increase your percentage chance of doing a lose

[LB44]

Hi rich, sorry... added the stack sizes in, both 10k ish..
Yeh never really posted an hand for discussion on here before, unfortunatly ive just read the guidelines after I posted lol.

btw.. its Liam

and

[TightEnd]

Hi rich, sorry... added the stack sizes in, both 10k ish..
Yeh never really posted an hand for discussion on here before, unfortunatly ive just read the guidelines after I posted lol.

btw.. its Liam

and

sorry Liam, thanks for posting on here

[LB44]

I just instant mucked when he called, 9 high doesnt have great showdown value in a 11k pot in level 2 lol, but then James at first refused to flip his hand over then with a little prompt from the dealer fliped the queen ftw... would have been sick if I mucked ace 7 lol

[GreekStein]

only defend AA oop to James mfkin Keys.

[SuuPRlim]

Shameless "played a hand with james keys" brag imo

[EvilPie]

Big blind calling doesn't signify much of a hand at all.

Big blind never check raises a monster against a guy who raises a lot and always c bets.

Check/raise flop then lead turn looks weird.

River... Meh you either got the nuts and played it weird or you've got total air.

Personally I fold here in Key's spot or maybe raise turn. I still don't believe you but I can't hero call with Q high. A high I call pretty quick.

You've killed yourself on the flop to be honest. Would you ever c/r if you had a big hand or even just a sniff of it? You're just flatting no matter what. If you've hit a bit you have showdown value so want to keep it cheap. If you've hit big you want to keep him in.

By the river you're never betting anything with showdown value. None of it makes any sense and it's really hard to put you on any hand at all. It's a good one to hero call just for curiosity because there's a good chance you get it right.

It's one of those lines that's worth remembering if you come up against a thinking player like Keys because you can get 3 streets of value out of mediocre hands.

[Rupert]

ur not repping a lot although q high is a pretty massive hero

[pleno1]

u got owned bra.

really cool hand.

could go for the double c/r eyeball?  pretty horrid spot if you get raised on the turn with stack sizes, wrote out like 4 different lines and all have flaws.

dont agree with evilpie that c/r/l looks weird, it looks standard, if someone c/r/c me I'd be like wtf they have air. I find ti weird people call o much with A/Q wte marginal hand as you could easily be turning 67,57,34s,53s etc all into bluffs here. like when you c/r here the only hands they are beating imo is 79. pretty sick. saying that, this deep i expect good plays to call the c/r pretty often which is why I don't realllllllly like the flop line.

teach me pls james keysss.

[George2Loose]

yeh on river ur probs checking most hands with showdown.

[outragous76]

There is 1 hand he is repping here which is the flopped nuts

It however reminds me of a conversation I had with Pab after the DTD monte carlo event about a hand (nothing like this one in terms of how it played out), but where pab picked off my bluff.

I was surprised by his call ( 2nd or 3rd pair) and after the event he told me I was repping such a small range (1 hand) that he had to call

Basically, dont fk around with great players when you a repping such a narrow range,

But

when you have the narrow range bet bet bet bet bet bet bet

[Mitch]

I think its hard to call here vs a guy you dont have much info on.

I dont agree that people are only playing the nuts like this. Its a great board to be able to play 47,57,67 etc on as your able to put a lot of pressure on overpairs that are probably going to find it hard to call a c/r and then barrells on turn and river with a hand like 10s Jacks etc, especially in such an early level of a deepstack comp.

If you have played your hand like this I cant see why you would ever want to really check call the river with showdown value unless your pretty sure the opponent has been chasing a straight draw the whole way.

Once you have been called on flop and turn, the missed draw is the only hand you can beat and imo you need to decide either to give up or keep turning your hand into a bluff. Obv keys is good enough to just own your soul but i think you have played the hand well but should be more careful when looking at your hole cards. James has obv seen them at some point in the hand 

Also, once your opponent knows you are able to do this with marginal hands it makes them a lot less likely to be able to narrow your range to bluffs or nuts and therefore its less appealing for them to doa call with Q high and look like an idiot when you were betting 3rd pair.

Matt: cant understand why u think c/r bet is a weird line!? How often do you check raise a flop then check the turn unless you have just totally given up with the hand?