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« on: September 20, 2010, 02:35:42 PM »

Interesting hand from a $1/2 cash game at the Venetian.

I've been at the table for a good few hours.  Stuart Hopkin was also at the table, but I now have his chips and he's gone to find Cos as standing next to him Stu will feel as though he's up for the day.

Anyway, the play at the table has been pretty poor - so I've fitted in well.  Nice friendly table though, and the banter's good.  One player who hasn't joined in the banter is a bloke in his mid-40s who's wearing a Full Tilt WSOP 2006 T-shirt and shades.  Stu had previously commented on his bet-sizing as he liked to bet 4x the pot on the flop and raise 12xBBs pre-flop.  He was obviously a pro.

Anyway, back to the hand in question.  I'm sitting with about $600 ($300 buy-in and I have Stu's chips now was well of course).  I have    in the BB and decide to raise to $18 with 4  limpers behind me, including Mr WSOP 2006.  Two callers, including him.

The flop is a lovely  two hearts

I lead out for $35 into the pot of about $60.  Mr WSOP 2006 calls, the other player folds.

Turn is a slightly unpleasant  three diamonds - but I lead out again for about $80.  He calls pretty quickly.

The river is  - so doesn't really change anything.

But now looking at him, I have a bad feeling about the hand.  I decide to check and he bets about $100.  It screams that he has the straight, but I decide I have to call as I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn over a big ace here, even though his body language and that bet on the end is telling me he has the straight.


Thoughts?  Do you call the river, and what do you put him on?
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 02:40:09 PM »

check call is fine for me.

BTW "I'm sitting with about $600 ($300 buy-in and I have Stu's chips now was well of course).  I have     in the BB and decide to raise to $18 with 4  limpers behind me,"

you raise it up to 9x the BB from the BB with a4?

Obviously Mr WSOP is a much better player than you are. Wink

Also don't like the $35 bet..would like to see this nearer 40-45.

80 is fine'ish
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 02:45:58 PM »

Check pre.

Bet more.

Bet more.

Check call is fine.

He has A6.

A4 in the BB isn't a hand to be 9x'ing with pre.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2010, 02:56:41 PM »

The amounts are approximate, but close enough. 

Obviously Mr WSOP is a much better player than you are. Wink

So very true.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 02:59:52 PM »

Would probably expect him to check behind the river with Ax, which i think would make up the majority of the range you could beat, he doesnt sound like the type to value bet thin at all, however, i would still expect him to value bet a set or a lower two pair, however i just cant see how these lower 2 pair hands would get to the flop turn and river.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 03:06:00 PM »

Do what you like, it wouldnt make any difference, you ran sooo +EV out there it was silly.

GIVE ME BACK MY EV!
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2010, 03:08:10 PM »

Do what you like, it wouldnt make any difference, you ran sooo +EV out there it was silly.

GIVE ME BACK MY EV!

LOL - you should post your hand against me on here and your thinking behind it.  Was quite exquisite.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 03:11:21 PM »

Do what you like, it wouldnt make any difference, you ran sooo +EV out there it was silly.

GIVE ME BACK MY EV!

LOL - you should post your hand against me on here and your thinking behind it.  Was quite exquisite.

Ha ha!

Thats how well you ran! I couldnt even put the right hands action to the current hand! MBSFN to be sat next to me!
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2010, 03:16:21 PM »

I hope he's got a straight
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2010, 03:19:34 PM »

I hope he's got a straight

I hope he's got J9o and shows you when you nit-fold.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2010, 03:21:14 PM »

I hope he's got a straight

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2010, 03:29:38 PM »


And that he starts preaching to you.
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2010, 03:30:54 PM »

I am extremely good at reads, as a live pro.

Call he had KQ off.
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2010, 03:45:09 PM »

I am extremely good at reads, as a live pro.

Call he had KQ off.

Cheesy 

Close (but misinformed).

I called and said "I've got two pair" and showed my cards.  I asked him "You've got the straight, haven't you?", and he nodded and said "Yes" and tabled !!!  The dealer then had to explain that he didn't have a straight. 

Who said the cash games in Vegas were easy?

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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2010, 03:51:13 PM »

I am extremely good at reads, as a live pro.

Call he had KQ off.

Cheesy 

Close (but misinformed).

I called and said "I've got two pair" and showed my cards.  I asked him "You've got the straight, haven't you?", and he nodded and said "Yes" and tabled !!!  The dealer then had to explain that he didn't have a straight. 

Who said the cash games in Vegas were easy?



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