WCOOP $1k vs Moorman

[Rupert]

He hasn't been animalling too hard at this point, maybe 42/37 or something but hasn't really been 3 betting at all.  He tanked the flop a bit before calling.  Probs a straightforward fold but not sure why he went for the overbet other than for me to try outlevel myself?  I think he's vaguely aware of me probs thinks i'm a mediocre reg (spot on)

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $120(BB) Replayer
SB ($16,827)
BB ($28,274)
UTG ($43,166)
UTG+1 ($35,709)
UTG+2 ($12,550)
MP1 ($8,195)
MP2 ($13,670)
CO ($3,683)
Hero ($25,218)

Dealt to Hero Q:spade: A:club:

fold, UTG+1 raises to $240, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $240, SB calls $180, fold

FLOP ($975) 2:heart: A:heart: 8:club:

SB checks, UTG+1 bets $960, Hero calls $960, SB calls $960

TURN ($3,855) 2:heart: A:heart: 8:club: Q:heart:

SB bets $2,475, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $2,475

RIVER ($8,805) 2:heart: A:heart: 8:club: Q:heart: 9:club:

SB bets $13,137 (AI), Hero

[Whollyflush]

Seems a trivial fold this one.

[LeKnave]

def wdnt fold here

[GreekStein]

def wdnt fold here

elaborate pls jones.

[EvilPie]

def wdnt fold here

elaborate pls jones.

He means he would call.

[pleno1]

if he has a flush I think he'd bet more on turn to shove the river easier. (pot to stack sizes) seems like he either . didnt bet bigger on turn because he wanted to overshove (have more fold equity) rivered something that improved his hand and decided to shove for value (j10?)

[pleno1]

fwiw i realise that whatever he bets on turn will still lead to an overbet on the river.

would like a mtt reg to assign a range that he could potentially turn into a bluff. i.e hands with sd value.

[DMorgan]

Pretty quick fold I think. We don't beat very much of his value range at all and it seems to be a pretty strange spot to randomly bluff?

[pleno1]

sorry for overposting here but what would moorman do with AxKh in this position? c/f?

if people are folding top two then surely better to turn hand into a bluff and get two pair hands to fold and if they have air then means we arent going to get bluffed off the pot that is like80% of stack.

if im looking at this the complete wrong way please say!

[Rupert]

Should probably have mentioned that the other guy in the pot is a 31/4 pretty call happy fish which probs makes river more of a fold.

[GreekStein]

def wdnt fold here

elaborate pls jones.

He means he would call.

zzZ.

In this spot Moorman must put hero on a hand (I say must 'very' loosely as Moorman is about a billion levels above me) and it seems a very risky (bad?) spot to bluff.

I'd have thought Moorman's range is largely hands that beat us here.

[EvilPie]

His line looks like a flush.

He's good enough to know this.

I call because I hate being bluffed.

[GreekStein]

His line looks like a flush.

He's good enough to know this.

I call because I hate being bluffed.

What does our line look like?

[NigDawG]

if you don't ever fold to moorman you'll probably be alright

[Rupert]

i can def have the nuts and other flushes