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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2010, 12:26:12 PM »

what does raising the flop achieve?

We get to find out where we are in the hand.

If we get back raised or called then we can pass because we know we're behind.
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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2010, 12:33:50 PM »

what does raising the flop achieve?

We get to find out where we are in the hand.

If we get back raised or called then we can pass because we know we're behind.
if your not raising the flop with kings what hands would u raise with?

I would raise to define the hand
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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2010, 12:39:04 PM »

what does raising the flop achieve?

We get to find out where we are in the hand.

If we get back raised or called then we can pass because we know we're behind.
if your not raising the flop with kings what hands would u raise with?

I would raise to define the hand
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after flatting pre, would never raise this flop.
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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2010, 12:39:59 PM »

fair play to anyone folding here, no way i'm folding. Under repped as played you have your reward, so many random fish calling down with AJ/KJ i'd be value betting AQ,KQ all the way like this to.

Back to a more serious note and because he's viewing the thread....

I think Railtard is wondering not only about whether to call/fold but also whether to value shove.

Can we get called by any of the hands above if we jam here?

What bluffs can we represent given our line so far?
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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2010, 12:40:31 PM »

ok thanks for replys yo.

I called the river, and he has AQo. I was so surprised to see this, as it just doesnt make sense to me for him to 3bet his hand this early, pre antes. I also think getting 3 streets with AQ (after the preflop action) is too thin.
FWIW, i at the time didnt think he could be value towning himself, but made a crying call anyways.
Vs this hand exactly, i missed value, but he should have AQ here never
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« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2010, 12:41:39 PM »

what does raising the flop achieve?

We get to find out where we are in the hand.

If we get back raised or called then we can pass because we know we're behind.
if your not raising the flop with kings what hands would u raise with?

I would raise to define the hand
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after flatting pre, would never raise this flop.

Are there any flops you would raise?
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« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2010, 12:42:49 PM »

ok thanks for replys yo.

I called the river, and he has AQo. I was so surprised to see this, as it just doesnt make sense to me for him to 3bet his hand this early, pre antes. I also think getting 3 streets with AQ (after the preflop action) is too thin.
FWIW, i at the time didnt think he could be value towning himself, but made a crying call anyways.
Vs this hand exactly, i missed value, but he should have AQ here never

You give people too much credit for having a functioning brain.
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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2010, 12:44:01 PM »

ok thanks for replys yo.

I called the river, and he has AQo. I was so surprised to see this, as it just doesnt make sense to me for him to 3bet his hand this early, pre antes. I also think getting 3 streets with AQ (after the preflop action) is too thin.
FWIW, i at the time didnt think he could be value towning himself, but made a crying call anyways.
Vs this hand exactly, i missed value, but he should have AQ here never

Really ?

I think AQ is one of the hands he can have here for average internet donk...think ur giving him credit for being as good as you... the KK is so under repped here that average donk isnt even thinking about what hand you have..he has tp tk...he thinks wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii  !!! lolz
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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2010, 12:45:19 PM »

what does raising the flop achieve?

We get to find out where we are in the hand.

If we get back raised or called then we can pass because we know we're behind.
if your not raising the flop with kings what hands would u raise with?

I would raise to define the hand
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after flatting pre, would never raise this flop.

No that was an answer to rupert

I would call this flop and raise turn probs

I think raising flop looks abit too strong and you will lose alot of value from weaker hands
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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2010, 12:59:39 PM »

ok thanks for replys yo.

I called the river, and he has AQo. I was so surprised to see this, as it just doesnt make sense to me for him to 3bet his hand this early, pre antes. I also think getting 3 streets with AQ (after the preflop action) is too thin.
FWIW, i at the time didnt think he could be value towning himself, but made a crying call anyways.
Vs this hand exactly, i missed value, but he should have AQ here never

Really ?

I think AQ is one of the hands he can have here for average internet donk...think ur giving him credit for being as good as you... the KK is so under repped here that average donk isnt even thinking about what hand you have..he has tp tk...he thinks wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii  !!! lolz

I don't think we can call him an 'average donk'. A quick OPR shows that he's played 350k worth of comps. Exceptional donk would be closer to the mark.

His roi although positive is only 7% and includes 4 x 12k sat packages so he's not exactly a huge winner in mtts.

His ITM is 12%

Certainly looks capable of an early spew given these figures although can't be guaranteed.
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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2010, 01:07:04 PM »

LoL i have a ROI of 65% OPR and im rubbish...so he must be epic bad
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« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2010, 01:20:10 PM »

LoL i have a ROI of 65% OPR and im rubbish...so he must be epic bad


over a sample size of how many?
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« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2010, 01:23:08 PM »

LoL i have a ROI of 65% OPR and im rubbish...so he must be epic bad


over a sample size of how many?

Very small..just over 300 mtt.. i'm purely recreational.. im under no illusion to my mad skillz
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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2010, 01:25:37 PM »

LoL i have a ROI of 65% OPR and im rubbish...so he must be epic bad


over a sample size of how many?

Very small..just over 300 mtt.. i'm purely recreational.. im under no illusion to my mad skillz

keep playing the rush!!!!
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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2010, 01:30:59 PM »

LoL i have a ROI of 65% OPR and im rubbish...so he must be epic bad


over a sample size of how many?

Very small..just over 300 mtt.. i'm purely recreational.. im under no illusion to my mad skillz

keep playing the rush!!!!

LOLZ... i'll leave it to people who know what there doing like yourself.... i work hard for my money..you can't have it Mr Trigg
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