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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2010, 02:28:05 PM »

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2010, 02:29:39 PM »

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.


norrrrrr they are tez flop is not terrible for us, pre is worse than c/f flop imo unless we're looking for just a ten bawl.
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2010, 02:50:22 PM »

Not folding here Monda.

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.

What would u do here if you had say, KQ?
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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2010, 02:52:02 PM »

Not folding here Monda.

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.

What would u do here if you had say, KQ?

touching our special place whilst stacking off whichever way the fish wants.
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2010, 03:00:36 PM »

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.

Really ? Can't see how we can c/f flop here vs this villain.
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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2010, 03:09:08 PM »

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.

+1 deepish vs weak fish surely we only want to be in big pots by value betting our made hands not trying to get tricky/clever with 2nd pair type hands.
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2010, 03:24:51 PM »

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.

Really ? Can't see how we can c/f flop here vs this villain.

we can't.
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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2010, 05:21:19 PM »

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.

cant believe im gona disagree with james keys.

I think 4bet getting it in pre has to be correct here vs a spazzy retarded clown. Mainly because its going to be so hard to play OOP postflop like 35bb deep or w/e vs a villain who is going to do stupid stuff (like bet more on turn than he did on flop). With depth of stacks, if we 4bet pre / get it in, and were beat, its kinda cold IMO.
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2010, 05:57:35 PM »

Pre is fine, check-fold flop.

cant believe im gona disagree with james keys.

I think 4bet getting it in pre has to be correct here vs a spazzy retarded clown. Mainly because its going to be so hard to play OOP postflop like 35bb deep or w/e vs a villain who is going to do stupid stuff (like bet more on turn than he did on flop). With depth of stacks, if we 4bet pre / get it in, and were beat, its kinda cold IMO.

Once we've peeled pre though what do you think of post flop play ?
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2010, 07:41:45 PM »

I'm still not sure on the merits of 4bet/get it in pre.Yeah villain is spewy/bad but what are we putting his calling ranges at to suggest this is the best line ?
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