Hand from WSOPE £1k

[The Camel]

I called.

I realised while calling this was probably a mistake, but I thought it was a unique situation.

I felt I could narrow his holdings down pretty accurately.

I thought there was a 90% chance he had AA, KK, QQ or AK.

Maybe a 10% chance he had TT, 99 or AQ.

Virtually no chance he had anything else.

I also thought there was a good chance the bb would squeeze and if the villain folded I would instacall, but pass if he called.

I thought the villain was so straightforward he would lead if he was ahead of me on the flop, and check if I was ahead.

Thoughts?

[Dry em]

Heat of battle or not, this would be a terrible fold to make.

Insightful

[sligboi]

I'm sorry but if you really think that there is 90% chance he has you crushed then it's a fold.

With 15 bbs and an open in front of us we can never even consider calling. It's shove or fold, simples. By calling you're putting in over 20% of your stack and by your own admission you might not even get to see a flop.

If it folds around (27.2k in the pot, ~38k eff stack) and we see an uncoordinated 10 high flop and the villain jams (which is likely considering his >3x pfr) are we really folding? His jam looks weak but you've effectively gone set mining by flatting pre and deciding to give up if he continues.

[The Camel]

I'm sorry but if you really think that there is 90% chance he has you crushed then it's a fold.

With 15 bbs and an open in front of us we can never even consider calling. It's shove or fold, simples. By calling you're putting in over 20% of your stack and by your own admission you might not even get to see a flop.

If it folds around (27.2k in the pot, ~38k eff stack) and we see an uncoordinated 10 high flop and the villain jams (which is likely considering his >3x pfr) are we really folding? His jam looks weak but you've effectively gone set mining by flatting pre and deciding to give up if he continues.

AK is obv the most likely holding.

I would have expected a slightly smaller raise with AA maybe even KK.

[sligboi]

I really don't understand his pfr size. I mean considering he has the rockiest of rock images 7.5k does the same as 10k. It does look like AK not wanting to take a flop oop or build a pot so that he can commit himself with a cbet. But I still, in theory, like the fold pre as when we jam he passes everything we beat bar AK and when we flat we put ourselves in a rank spot

[outragous76]

I nearly posted then held off!

Keith it sounds like you were really hoping for the squeeze here to define nits range, and although I love the thinking you just aren't deep enough, and are you sure he folds ak to the squeeze?

Bb could of course peel too which would be horrible for you being oop in the hand. Playing 25bbs I think this play is perfect, here given your reads I think u should fold

I jam pre fwiw

[Boba Fett]

I called.

I realised while calling this was probably a mistake, but I thought it was a unique situation.

I felt I could narrow his holdings down pretty accurately.

I thought there was a 90% chance he had AA, KK, QQ or AK.

Maybe a 10% chance he had TT, 99 or AQ.

Virtually no chance he had anything else.

I also thought there was a good chance the bb would squeeze and if the villain folded I would instacall, but pass if he called.

I thought the villain was so straightforward he would lead if he was ahead of me on the flop, and check if I was ahead.

Thoughts?

So you're looking to turn your hand into a bluff on the flop if it comes A high and he checks to you, hopefully bluffing out KK/QQ/JJ or bluff out QQ/JJ on a K high flop if he checks?

I dont like it because to win the pot, you're flatting JJ to either turn it into a bluff on a A or K high flops if he doesnt c-bet (Since you're turning it into a bluff, how wide would you flat in this spot to make this move?) or attacking raggy flops when he check/folds AK.  Also he can potentially bluff you off this pot as Id assume he would shove low flops with JJ/TT/99 as well as QQ-AA

[AlexMartin]

fold seems apt

[The Camel]

I called.

I realised while calling this was probably a mistake, but I thought it was a unique situation.

I felt I could narrow his holdings down pretty accurately.

I thought there was a 90% chance he had AA, KK, QQ or AK.

Maybe a 10% chance he had TT, 99 or AQ.

Virtually no chance he had anything else.

I also thought there was a good chance the bb would squeeze and if the villain folded I would instacall, but pass if he called.

I thought the villain was so straightforward he would lead if he was ahead of me on the flop, and check if I was ahead.

Thoughts?

So you're looking to turn your hand into a bluff on the flop if it comes A high and he checks to you, hopefully bluffing out KK/QQ/JJ or bluff out QQ/JJ on a K high flop if he checks?

I dont like it because to win the pot, you're flatting JJ to either turn it into a bluff on a A or K high flops if he doesnt c-bet (Since you're turning it into a bluff, how wide would you flat in this spot to make this move?) or attacking raggy flops when he check/folds AK.  Also he can potentially bluff you off this pot as Id assume he would shove low flops with JJ/TT/99 as well as QQ-AA

I'm basically shoving if he checks to me on the flop.

If the flop comes Axx I trusted my ability to judge if he's got AK or QQ, KK. As I said he seemed pretty inexperienced, at least in regards to playing for this sort of loot.

This is the reason I wasn't sure if it was a good hand to post here, because my play was totally based on my read on the player.

999 out of a thousand I wouldn't call pre. I would occasionally fold but mostly shove, just felt there was a good chance bb would squeeze and that would define the villains hand or if that didn't happen I could judge accurately where I stood on the flop.

[Cf]

The problem with hoping from a squeeze from the aggro bb is that he presumably has noticed that the tight player hasn't played any hands. A good aggro player picks his spots right. Squeezing into a tight player who you give a 90% chance of AA/KK/QQ/AK doesn't seem like a good spot to squeeze to me.

I just fold pre and let the guy blind himself down some more.

[pleno1]

how long did you tank for before flatting.

[George2Loose]

When he shows me Aces I prob nod my head after he has called my shove

[pleno1]

When he shows me Aces I prob nod my head after he has called my shove

I've been there.

[The Camel]

how long did you tank for before flatting.

I virtually never tank. And certainly didn't tank here.

[Rupert]

im allin

can easily have been card dead for 3 hours esp when people tank ridiculously when in the money probs only played 50 hands in 3 hours if that