100NLHU bet sizing with the (nuts)

[pleno1]

***** Hand History for Game 26599378448 ***** (Full Tilt)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, December 21, 09:45:26 ET 2010
Table Turin (heads up deep) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: tiote22 ( $104.25 USD )
Seat 2: seras0007 ( $203.25 USD )
seras0007 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
tiote22 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to tiote22 [  ]
seras0007 raises [$1.25 USD]
tiote22 calls [$1.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
tiote22 checks
seras0007 bets [$1.00 USD]
tiote22 raises [$5.00 USD]
seras0007 raises [$17.00 USD]
tiote22 raises [$32.00 USD]
seras0007 calls [$19.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
tiote22 bets [$27.00 USD]
seras0007 calls [$27.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
tiote22 bets [$38.75 USD]
seras0007 calls [$38.75 USD]
tiote22 shows [, ]
seras0007 shows [, ]
seras0007 wins $208.00 USD from main pot

Should I be jamming the turn? I would never ever take this line with a big hand, so is it a huge leak that I don't have a balanced range in these spots? Or is it ok because I'm not playing regs?

Also, should be flat his 3bet otf and raise turn/river?

[SuuPRlim]

I would either be peeling the flop 3bet and c/raising the turn, or raising bigger on the flop (to like $40-$50 and therefore setting stacks to easily get in on the turn

[AlexMartin]

I would either be peeling the flop 3bet and c/raising the turn, or raising bigger on the flop (to like $40-$50 and therefore setting stacks to easily get in on the turn

+1

flop go bigger man. turn i assume ur inducing, but that would mean villain could have a tonne of draws/worse value he can spaz with, which doesnt appear to be the case. meh, dont like it tbh.

[pleno1]

I would either be peeling the flop 3bet and c/raising the turn, or raising bigger on the flop (to like $40-$50 and therefore setting stacks to easily get in on the turn

+1

flop go bigger man. turn i assume ur inducing, but that would mean villain could have a tonne of draws/worse value he can spaz with, which doesnt appear to be the case. meh, dont like it tbh.

I wasn't inducing, I was just betting small knowing he'd be getting ridic odds on the river to call. I think this is a pretty huge leak as I'm obv never doing this as a bluff, ever ever. But because it's against a fish who's looking at his cards it is not terrrrrrrrrrrrrrible. Like although the board has ran out very poorly, I would expect to 100% get his stack here betting small twice, rather than shoving the turn / doing something different. But obviously I would never do this with 56 as the above sais I have zero fold equity.


Just had a really good hours coaching session on bet sizing and although I'm winning at really good rate at HUNL, I think my turn bet sizing's has been my biggest leak. Have gone through it thoroughly with hands I've played and similar hands that coach has played and really feel better about it.

[GreekStein]

3-bet pre too

[pleno1]

3-bet pre too

You being nasty because of the 88 hand?

[GreekStein]

3-bet pre too

You being nasty because of the 88 hand?

what 88 hand?

Just think there's merit to 3-betting this hu

[pleno1]

3-bet pre too

You being nasty because of the 88 hand?

what 88 hand?

Just think there's merit to 3-betting this hu

One of the gazillion threads I posted last night, understandable if you missed it

I'd 3bet 200bb deep with 88 and hated life.

I don't think I ever 3bet 22-88 here, but maybe that's a leak I have.

[GreekStein]

some interesting discussion on it here

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/40-80-all-streets-877507/

[SuuPRlim]

some interesting discussion on it here

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19/high-stakes-pl-nl/40-80-all-streets-877507/

nice find

[AlexMartin]

I would either be peeling the flop 3bet and c/raising the turn, or raising bigger on the flop (to like $40-$50 and therefore setting stacks to easily get in on the turn

+1

flop go bigger man. turn i assume ur inducing, but that would mean villain could have a tonne of draws/worse value he can spaz with, which doesnt appear to be the case. meh, dont like it tbh.

I wasn't inducing, I was just betting small knowing he'd be getting ridic odds on the river to call. I think this is a pretty huge leak as I'm obv never doing this as a bluff, ever ever. But because it's against a fish who's looking at his cards it is not terrrrrrrrrrrrrrible. Like although the board has ran out very poorly, I would expect to 100% get his stack here betting small twice, rather than shoving the turn / doing something different. But obviously I would never do this with 56 as the above sais I have zero fold equity.


Just had a really good hours coaching session on bet sizing and although I'm winning at really good rate at HUNL, I think my turn bet sizing's has been my biggest leak. Have gone through it thoroughly with hands I've played and similar hands that coach has played and really feel better about it.

i would seriously challenge that statement mate given its a srp/board/possible board runouts and his likely range.

[DMorgan]

When he 3bets the flop I'd probably either peel and c/r turn or make it like $50

[SuuPRlim]

When he 3bets the flop I'd probably either peel and c/r turn or make it like $50

oioi

I would either be peeling the flop 3bet and c/raising the turn, or raising bigger on the flop (to like $40-$50 and therefore setting stacks to easily get in on the turn

BAM

[cambridgealex]

When he 3bets the flop I'd probably either peel and c/r turn or make it like $50

oioi

I would either be peeling the flop 3bet and c/raising the turn, or raising bigger on the flop (to like $40-$50 and therefore setting stacks to easily get in on the turn

BAM

wp wp

[Romantic1987]

I think we should be a bit more cautious, he has to have a very strong polarised range to re-re raise on the flop, so it's most likely  . Could be  but i dont think he would always raise that?

Check call turn and if he does check back Id consider Value betting the river, I definitely would prolly.