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Quote from: TightEnd on December 28, 2015, 03:18:22 PM
jumping the gun, scarf sellers?
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Hope they don't sell any.
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Scweinsteiger/Scheinderlin should play every single game.
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It's not every day a former Man Utd & England footballer rings a phone-in to rant...
http://bbc.in/1NT1L8D
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Glazers' determination to cut wage bill helps explain MUFC's decline
http://www.capx.co/man-utds-woes-are-due-to-failure-to-invest/
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Glazers' determination to cut wage bill helps explain MUFC's decline
http://www.capx.co/man-utds-woes-are-due-to-failure-to-invest/
Something has to give to pay the bank interest bill every year.
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Quote from: arbboy on December 30, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
Glazers' determination to cut wage bill helps explain MUFC's decline
http://www.capx.co/man-utds-woes-are-due-to-failure-to-invest/
Something has to give to pay the bank interest bill every year.
Not forgetting the $24million annual dividend to the Glazer children
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So Arsenal are lauded as savvy businessmen and United are lunatics?
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Quote from: Tal on December 30, 2015, 07:32:31 PM
So Arsenal are lauded as savvy businessmen and United are lunatics?
It's a flawed piece of logic, IMO.
Just because Man U earn far more revenue should not mean they have some sort of obligation to spend it on players wages, or any other operating costs or overhead.
It's a business. The owners are entitled to expect an increase in value, profits and dividend.
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This is article is bizarre. Is it saying that spending 116% of your revenue is something a club should aspire to do? And that getting rid of Hernandez, Nani, RVP, Di Maria, Rafael, Jonny Evans, James Wilson, Cleverley and Falcao was a bad thing?
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Quote from: POWWWWWWWW on December 30, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
This is article is bizarre. Is it saying that spending 116% of your revenue is something a club should aspire to do? And that getting rid of Hernandez, Nani, RVP, Di Maria, Rafael, Jonny Evans, James Wilson, Cleverley and Falcao was a bad thing?
not the 116%, but the logic is the debt interest prevents 50% of revenue being 60% of revenue being spent on the squad
not all of your list are good misses. chicarito scores for fun in the bundesliga to give one example.
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Quote from: POWWWWWWWW on December 30, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
This is article is bizarre. Is it saying that spending 116% of your revenue is something a club should aspire to do? And that getting rid of Hernandez, Nani, RVP, Di Maria, Rafael, Jonny Evans, James Wilson, Cleverley and Falcao was a bad thing?
I only just read the full article linked to. What a pile of tosh.
The clue was at the foot of the article - the so called "Red Knights".
If that lot ever took control of Man U, it'd be game over for a grand club.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 30, 2015, 07:48:10 PM
Quote from: POWWWWWWWW on December 30, 2015, 07:41:33 PM
This is article is bizarre. Is it saying that spending 116% of your revenue is something a club should aspire to do? And that getting rid of Hernandez, Nani, RVP, Di Maria, Rafael, Jonny Evans, James Wilson, Cleverley and Falcao was a bad thing?
not the 116%, but the logic is the debt interest prevents 50% of revenue being 60% of revenue being spent on the squad
not all of your list are good misses. chicarito scores for fun in the bundesliga to give one example.
It doesn't need to be. United pay wages and top transfer fees ( or try to), they aren't getting outbid they just don't spend that % because it would be stupid to. If United doubled their revenue next year would they be complaining we aren't paying people 600k a week?
Hernandez was very poor for United and the boys behind him at Bayer are very good.
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Ah, the good old Red Knights. Happy days
The anti-Glazer sentiment is understandable if you consider United’s profits would have been substantially higher if the club did not have to bear the financing costs of the Glazers’ leveraged buy-out. In fact, over the last seven years they have made total operating profits of £457 million (including £148 million from player sales), which have been totally wiped out by net financing costs of £460 million.
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Quote from: tikay on December 30, 2015, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Tal on December 30, 2015, 07:32:31 PM
So Arsenal are lauded as savvy businessmen and United are lunatics?
It's a flawed piece of logic, IMO.
Just because Man U earn far more revenue should not mean they have some sort of obligation to spend it on players wages, or any other operating costs or overhead.
It's a business. The owners are entitled to expect an increase in value, profits and dividend.
Tikay, in general terms I agree with the bolded part but not necessarily for a football club.
What is United's business - is it playing football or selling noodles? If it's playing football then being successful at that is a pre-requisite.
Since Sir AF retired United have struggled. We all assume it is a blip but it can be argued it is a complete failure of core infrastructure and succession policy. For over 20 years, United had a successful system but relied on just one person to implement that system without making any serious attempt to replicate the processes that made it successful and guide a successor to be able to maintain it.
If I was a United fan I woud be worried and anti-Glazer.
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Deloitte figures for 2013/14
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-clubs-revenue-boom-to-33billion-eclipses-rest-of-europe-10295701.html
50% of £433MM = £216.5MM
60% of £348.3MM = £209MM
That's Man City in second place in the revenue table and their spend on wages is marginally less than that at United.
What's the issue here?
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