counterfitted full house

[the sicilian]

I definitely play the flop more aggressively and raise.  You are very likely to have the best hand at this point but you get calls from a big range of hands that you are beating  Most big diamonds are probably going to call here along with a chance of a call from any 7's and 3's and probably most overpairs too.   You have pretty good equity against any flushes too and if anyone wants to get it in then call as enough overpairs and flush draws want to get it in to make it profitable as Dave has shown.  Call on turn is fine and you are realistically only worried about a six on the river so when it comes it is a bit sick and I fold I think as UTG is fairly likely to have an overpair given his action so far and if the button is tight as you mentioned then pairs are a big part of his range too.  You are beating very little here.

One other thing to think about is maybe a fold pre.  I know it is only 200 but often bad players will min raise in ep with very strong hands and if it looks a bit like a really weak steal attempt it is a spot that might see a reraise behind you that you can't call.  I generally hate calling in middle position with a hand as weak as this.  If you can't face folding I think I prefer reraising to like 650 to calling.

I think getting aggressive on this flop is not optimal...we have a strong hand but it is vulnerable.... we can easily lose control of a pot here that we don't need to... as said it can be played both ways however I like to try and build chips whilst minimising my risk rather than getting myself into situations where i can quite easily go out when there was no real need to... i personally think i can build chips without getting involved in big double up confrontations at this early level.

 Really don't like re raising or folding  pre with fives here... the value of this hand at this level is its implied odds of hitting a set and busting someone overplaying one pair especially if you do have a limper with Aces..and if you do have someone limping with a big hand you would have wasted 650 chips and not seen a flop. Worrying about someone squeezing behind you if you flat at 50-100 is not a huge consideration...squeezing usually comes at later levels when it is profitable to do so not for a couple of hundred chips... re raising pre here with such a weak hand more often leads to trouble as your basically turning your hand into a bluff from the off.. even if someone squeezes or wakes up with a hand at such a low blind level general rule of thumb would be to peel if its for 10% or less of your stack once again for the implication of mining your set and busting as at this ratio you can easily throw your hand away if you miss.

[the sicilian]

Hello Cambridge Alex
Thanks for your feedback, hoping to post many more hands and I am going to post at least 1 hand from each live tourney I play as I am sure this is going to help me improve, can you expand on why I would want the button to fold by me raising if a call by me allows him to come along when he is drawing dead. To summarise I should have raised the flop, say to 1,100 which probably would have got a fold from the tight regular and then probably a bad call from the unknown. Then on the Turn? Do I push hoping for a call from the unknown then, in fact pretty sure he would have called with the Eights (who then sucks out on me!!!).

And Mr Morris I am glad to say I was not the joker with the raggy ace but have been known to like those raggy aces but working hard on eliminating these suboptimal starting hands

Also am I able to post in Blonde via a Blackberry which would be usefull in getting more hand histories (or note pad at the table, think I may get stick for that??)





 

think you have the advantage of me sir as im not to sure who you are... the quad ace hand was with malcolm gee but was more of an example rather than a criticism of his play

[SuuPRlim]

To summarise I should have raised the flop, say to 1,100 which probably would have got a fold from the tight regular and then probably a bad call from the unknown. Then on the Turn? Do I push hoping for a call from the unknown then, in fact pretty sure he would have called with the Eights (who then sucks out on me!!!).

I like the raise because it feels like a good spot to have a pretty thin value range, i.e. there are not that many hands you would actually play this aggressively with, but a fair few semi-bluffs/bluffs...makes its a lot easier for your villain to hero you with hands like 88 because he can give you credit for missed draws

Admittedly, vs certain players Sicilian's cautious approach might actually be the best way to get three streets of value, just call flop, just call turn value bet most rivers (fold if non pairing diamond comes) - you prolly cant win a big pot this way tho

I still think given the description of the players in this pot the first is better as like you say, the bad player probly wont fold nearly anything

but working hard on eliminating these suboptimal starting hands

norrrrr sub-optimal hands ftw!

Also am I able to post in Blonde via a Blackberry which would be usefull in getting more hand histories (or note pad at the table, think I may get stick for that??)

I have a blackberry, and I dont think you can, i'm terrrrribles with stuff like this

[the sicilian]

yeah posting from blackberry is fine

[SuuPRlim]

yeah posting from blackberry is fine

I'm rubbish

[cambridgealex]

yeah posting from blackberry is fine

I'm rubbish

+1 - its EZ

[WPIL]

Anyone care to explain how as long as it is fairly easy, don't want it to make my life at the table more difficult that it is already!

[SuuPRlim]

Anyone care to explain how as long as it is fairly easy, don't want it to make my life at the table more difficult that it is already!

+1