How to shoot yourself in the foot.

[NoflopsHomer]

Game #1232029874: Hold'em NL (100/200) - 2005/12/30 - 21:48:00 (UK)
Table "New Year WSOP 1583459 - 4" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: Foaming_h (4525 in chips)
Seat 2: Metaldg68 (6210 in chips)
Seat 3: Jusboy (5075 in chips)
Seat 5: Castrum (7140 in chips)
Seat 6: Pw060669 sits out
Seat 7: Sw1rvin (6155 in chips)
Seat 8: Fishbass (2105 in chips)
Seat 9: Jamielusk (7780 in chips)
Seat 10: Seanie002 sits out
Fishbass: posts small blind 100
Jamielusk: posts big blind 200
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foaming_h [Ah As]
Seanie002: folds
Seanie002 sits back
Foaming_h: calls 200
Metaldg68: folds
Jusboy: folds
Castrum: folds
Pw060669: calls 200
Sw1rvin: raises to 800
Fishbass: folds
Jamielusk: folds
Foaming_h: calls 600
Ladysman sits back
Seanie002 sits back
Pw060669: calls 600
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
Foaming_h: bets 3725 and is all-in
Pw060669: folds
Sw1rvin: calls 3725
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Foaming_h: shows [Ah As] (Two Pairs, Aces and Sevens, Ten high)
Sw1rvin: shows [ ] (Three of a kind, Sevens, Ace high)
Sw1rvin collects 10150 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 10150 Main pot 10150 Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: Foaming_h lost
Seat 2: Metaldg68 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Jusboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Castrum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pw060669 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Sw1rvin (button) showed [ ] and won (10150) with Three of a kind, Sevens, Ace high
Seat 8: Fishbass (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Jamielusk (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Seanie002 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Comments?

[Dewi_cool]

Nothing wrong there mate ,  just unlucky

[Royal Flush]

I dont get it, you limp with AA fair enough, you get a raise then just flop call it.

You get a safe flop, and you move all in? If he has any hand he will bet it anyway, the only hands that flop are the ones u want in, AK AQ etc

Having said that, ul.

[thetank]

I'm not a fan of the flat call of sw1rvin's 800 raise, inviting two opponents to see a flop with you. I believe this slow play works better when there's just one of them.
It worked well for you though, you got your money in with by far the best hand on the flop, he had just 2 outs and a backdoor flush draw, what happens thereafter is irrelevant so well played.

[NoflopsHomer]

I'm not a fan of the flat call of sw1rvin's 800 raise, inviting two opponents to see a flop with you. I believe this slow play works better when there's just one of them.
It worked well for you though, you got your money in with by far the best hand on the flop, he had just 2 outs and a backdoor flush draw, what happens thereafter is irrelevant so well played.

I understand your point, but the limper hasn't shown any particular strength so must be on a marginal holding. I want him in the pot and I want the pot big enough so that even if they have marginal hands they might call my all-in. I actually had the raiser on 99 or TT, basically annoucing they have a good hand but will fold to a re-raise. Having played tight, if I re-raise here I give the game away, On a raggy low flop, 8's and 7's are too weak to raise here, but any pair above is going to call my all-in and assume I'm on a draw or a bluff. I'm unlikely to extract many chips from AK or AQ (though this guy is weak enough that he might have called with one or both).

I think my reasoning is sound, just tell me if I'm talking gubbins. 

[Nem]

VUL M8

[Royal Flush]

Don't mean to sound harsh, but that is pretty poor reasoning, if you have him on 99 TT check, he isnt folding anyway. If he has a worse hand he cant call the bet, if he has A9 say, he gets away for 0, check teh flop u will get at least something

[thetank]

I think my reasoning is sound, just tell me if I'm talking gubbins. 

I wouldn't call it bad play, it's just not my style. If I'm slow playing aces before the flop, it's against only one opponent. If I do slow play them pre-flop, I certainly almost always follow through the slow play and check the flop to the guy who has the betting initiative.

Against two or more, I like to stick a sizeable chunk in before those 3 cards are placed in the middle. I'm not too bothered if it gives my hand away (I rarely play with deep stacks where this is much of a problem) or if they all fold to the call re-raise. When the latter occurs, it's not that bad a thing, if I could net 6.5 big blinds every time I'm dealt AA I'm laughing.

[Royal Flush]

Thats it Tank, i mean its not really a slowplay, you have moved in first to speak, the only diffrence between doing that on the flop and pre flop, is u are far more likely not to be called, and more likely to lose when you are called

[Nem]

He panicked!!!

When he saw that flop and 2 players.

[bundle]

  How I Obliterated Aces   And why the hell would he keep betting that board on the river with me.  >:?


Full Tilt Poker Game #361340597: Table Lone Cedar (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:11:07 ET - 2005/12/31
Seat 1: GeddyLee23 ($103.40)
Seat 2: flava flav86 ($38)
Seat 3: bundle ($127.85)
flava flav86 posts the small blind of $0.50
bundle posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bundle [ ]
dahlh79 sits down
GeddyLee23 folds
dahlh79 adds $40
flava flav86 raises to $2
bundle calls $1
*** FLOP *** [ ]
flava flav86 bets $1
bundle calls $1
*** TURN *** [ ] []
flava flav86 checks
bundle checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
flava flav86 checks
bundle bets $4
flava flav86 raises to $8
tripsforjoe sits down
tripsforjoe adds $100
bundle raises to $24
flava flav86 raises to $35, and is all in
bundle calls $11
*** SHOW DOWN ***
flava flav86 shows [ As] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
bundle shows [ ] (four of a kind, Nines)
bundle wins the pot ($75) with four of a kind, Nines
flava flav86 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $76 | Rake $1
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: GeddyLee23 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: flava flav86 (small blind) showed [ As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 3: bundle (big blind) showed [ ] and won ($75) with four of a kind, Nines


 

[Nem]

VNH