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« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2011, 05:12:04 PM » |
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Why did you fold the set twice woodsey?
Maybe because you polarised your opponents range to a set, similar to what alex has done in this hand.
- jules doesn't 3-bet 44 or aj.
- jules can't have jj.
- jules isn't betting qq / kk on the turn.
- jules knows alex has a strong hand to flat twice here. (Alex's range is pretty much always pairs the way he's played the hand) so jules knows alex has a really strong hand and wants to bet.
Nothing makes me want to call now.
You're forgetting the fish? you're forgetting knocking out regs and isoing the fish you're forgetting large aces that pick up FDs, you're forgetting large Ax that thinks it's beating the fish.......... edit but it is lovely to read a results orientated post and then say yeah I'm really good I make the tough fold. yaya watever.
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« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2011, 05:12:22 PM » |
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Redarmi - the pot would need to be a lot bigger than 500 to call off 120 on the turn when you think you're drawing to 1 out.
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« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2011, 05:13:39 PM » |
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obv this whole thread is a massive level
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« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2011, 05:14:39 PM » |
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I'm not forgetting anything tiltbone. I think jules would be checking back those hands.
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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2011, 05:15:26 PM » |
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I'm not forgetting anything tiltbone. I think jules would be checking back those hands.
ah awesome I didn't realise Julian was this bad........
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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2011, 05:15:37 PM » |
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Why did you fold the set twice woodsey?
Maybe because you polarised your opponents range to a set, similar to what alex has done in this hand.
- jules doesn't 3-bet 44 or aj.
- jules can't have jj.
- jules isn't betting qq / kk on the turn.
- jules knows alex has a strong hand to flat twice here. (Alex's range is pretty much always pairs the way he's played the hand) so jules knows alex has a really strong hand and wants to bet.
Nothing makes me want to call now.
One was against the nittiest of nits and we were very deep, the other is hard to explain but I folded due what he said to me during a conversation an hour earlier. I was right both times........ I'm just not deep enough in this spot and there is plenty in the pot so I'm just not folding rightly or wrongly.
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« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2011, 05:28:54 PM » |
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Without meaning to sound like a prick (if I do I don't care much anyway), a lot of the people saying 'omg you can't fold because you have a set' aren't going to be winners in cash games.
In game time its real hard but I think you can fold here and be relatively happy about it.
Again I'll say it, but if the fish is calling off with an Ax combo, the chances of Julian ever having AA are so small it's pretty much criminal to fold AA here. This is not a strictly heads-up pot 200bb+ deep, it's a pot on an Ace high board with a fish stacking off otf after c/r all in. To narrow Julian's range down to exactly AA with him having the two remaining aces that are left - assuming fish has Ax is pretty terrible.
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« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2011, 05:30:49 PM » |
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we all love Julian and i have no idea from this what hand he can have other than aces in this spot. but one the other hand i dont mind paying julian because its julian innit. 100% its a fold and if it was me i would know from how julian bet into the dry side pot that he has the nuts. its a bit about meta game but Julian is such a nice guy he actually has a tell when in this situation with the nuts. if he likes you then it aint as obvious as him standing up and cupping his balls going i got the kahunas but i am pretty sure he will have bet out with those sad puppy eyes with a pained expression on his face saying "i'm soory mate"
live poker is so much easier than on line
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« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2011, 05:31:44 PM » |
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Redarmi - the pot would need to be a lot bigger than 500 to call off 120 on the turn when you think you're drawing to 1 out.
how much bigger. should we pokerstove the hand lol
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« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2011, 05:34:43 PM » |
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i may have missed it but what hand did julian have please alex?
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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2011, 05:42:48 PM » |
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putting anyone on AA on that board is insane, just saying.
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« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2011, 05:59:45 PM » |
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« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2011, 06:07:31 PM » |
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putting anyone on AA on that board is insane, just saying.
Why? The only thing I can see Julian having that we beat is a2-a10s that he is tyring to get Alex to fold AQ.
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2011, 06:07:48 PM » |
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no surprise if you know your going t hit runner runner straight its a great play
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« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2011, 06:13:22 PM » |
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i may have missed it but what hand did julian have please alex?
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