1/2 - Jacks oop in a double straddled pot

[GreekStein]

Matt, putting the 128 straddle on is extremely shit.
 
Having it in the game is brilliant.

[cambridgealex]

Its great because when you have 500quid and you have a premium hand its 100x easier to get it in when the straddle is to 128. U shove, and probably get called blind. If you have 78suited, you fold. Easy game. I can't see the problem.

[EvilPie]

Matt, putting the 128 straddle on is extremely shit.
 
Having it in the game is brilliant.

It is when we get dealt JJ

Presumably if someone's silly enough to straddle to 128 we're having to straddle as well though? Certainly at least 5 people are straddling to get up to 128.

So when does it stop?

Do we limit ourselves to the 4, 8, 16?

At what point does it become shit?

If us straddling to 16 induces the straddle to 128 is it a +EV move?

If it's not +EV should we put the block on?

Sorry to derail this to a straddle question but I'd like to know.

[SuuPRlim]

if your not doing it but other people are, its a great spot for you

[EvilPie]

Its great because when you have 500quid and you have a premium hand its 100x easier to get it in when the straddle is to 128. U shove, and probably get called blind. If you have 78suited, you fold. Easy game. I can't see the problem.

Yeah it's kind of great but as Dave said it's incredibly high variance.

If you're rolled for it then there's no problem whatsoever.

If not it's a sure fire way to go busto.

[EvilPie]

One more thing regarding the straddles.

If you stay disciplined it's a great way of making a profit out of other people's idiocy.

Just be careful not to get sucked in because it's really good fun

[cambridgealex]

Yeh but I have a massive roll init.

Putting a single straddle yourself in is -ev imo.

[SuuPRlim]

Matt is correct, it's very good fun
gamboooool

[stato_1]

You played this well, got coolered, and are a lucky fuck

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[StuartHopkin]

Its my mission one day to be playing a normalish 150bb stack and get the lot in as an understraddle.

[Solaris]

Having read thef first couple of pages I personally think flattting pe is best. I'd probably flat call the flop too and then make a decision for stacks on the turn.

I'm sort of wondering why the OP only has '3b/f 3b/c or 3bet size?' in his OP. Did you never consider flatting at any point?

[kinboshi]

Yeh its ridic to suggest that when there's a 128straddle on its not a good game to be in. I would feel the need to sit 2k deep either.

You're rolled for that game and the massive variance? Why not play 5/10?

[paulhouk03]

Matt is correct, it's very good fun
gamboooool

Gamboooooooool

[JK]

Matt is correct, it's very good fun
gamboooool

Gamboooooooool

I once put a £64 straddle on on a 50/1 game. Won a £700 pot. Was +ev. Results based ftw

[GreekStein]

Matt is correct, it's very good fun
gamboooool

Gamboooooooool

I once put a £64 straddle on on a 50/1 game. Won a £700 pot. Was +ev. Results based ftw

I recently put in a £164 and lost a £1500 pot with J4. Wasn't EV