Big Boxing Thread

[kinboshi]

Haye was covering the fight for someone, and decided to enforce his own agenda.

Earlier last night there was some boxing on Channel 5.  In complete contrast to Chisora and Haye, Kid Galahad and Jason Booth summed up what boxing is meant to be about.  Galahad won by a huge margin (after being hit by a wild overhand from Booth and suffering from a flash knockdown in the first), but the two showed each other respect at the end, as did both corners.  It was a cracking fight and the two fighters conducted themselves admirably. 

They should be the ones commanding the ridiculous purses the heavyweights manage to command.

Your probably right, but me and the rest of the uneducated boxing fans would rather watch a couple of massive biffers at least pretend they are gonna knock each other out, they might not but we the hope they will. Far better than watching a couple of skinny arsed featherweights dicking about even if its technically a great fight.

Its the truth mate and you know it.

Don't really care what uneducated fans want to watch.  Wrestling gets massive numbers watching it, and if non-fight fans who tune in to watch pantomime they should stick with wrestling.

It's sad that it's always been the case the heavyweights are the marquee bouts, when technically the standard has always been below fighters of the lower divisions.

[AdamM]

MMA FTW

[scotty2hatty]

I hate boxing.

What has happened over the last couple of days was inevitable eventually.

It's the fault of the scumbag promoters, Warren, Hearn, King etc.

Chisora is clearly a nutter and went too far, but the boundaries have been stretched to the limits by the money men desperate to hype up non event fights to try and make as much money as possible.

Boxing exploits young men trying to get out of poverty.

The whole game is a sickening pantomime.

I hate boxing.

get off the fence tell us what you really think

What I really think is boxing should be banned.

MMA fan?

Even worse than boxing.

Nonsense

[MintTrav]

Haye was covering the fight for someone, and decided to enforce his own agenda.

Earlier last night there was some boxing on Channel 5.  In complete contrast to Chisora and Haye, Kid Galahad and Jason Booth summed up what boxing is meant to be about.  Galahad won by a huge margin (after being hit by a wild overhand from Booth and suffering from a flash knockdown in the first), but the two showed each other respect at the end, as did both corners.  It was a cracking fight and the two fighters conducted themselves admirably. 

They should be the ones commanding the ridiculous purses the heavyweights manage to command.

Your probably right, but me and the rest of the uneducated boxing fans would rather watch a couple of massive biffers at least pretend they are gonna knock each other out, they might not but we the hope they will. Far better than watching a couple of skinny arsed featherweights dicking about even if its technically a great fight.

Its the truth mate and you know it.

Don't really care what uneducated fans want to watch.  Wrestling gets massive numbers watching it, and if non-fight fans who tune in to watch pantomime they should stick with wrestling.

It's sad that it's always been the case the heavyweights are the marquee bouts, when technically the standard has always been below fighters of the lower divisions.

Sport is part of the entertainment industry, so it's all about what people enjoy seeing, not what is the best technically. There are plenty of entertainers who earn disproportionate amounts compared to others who are arguably better technically at what they do. People enjoy watching heavyweights more than other boxers, so they are willing to pay more and the participants earn more money. Sometimes the welterweight/middleweight level becomes very entertaining and there has been a succession of high-profile high-earning boxers at that level who were rewarded for their ability/entertainment value. Ultimately, though, virtually everyone who watches boxing wants to watch the heavyweights, even bad ones, but very few want to watch good bantamweights. So the lighter weights get paid what they are worth, which is measured by how many people want to watch them, not how technical they are.

[kinboshi]

Haye was covering the fight for someone, and decided to enforce his own agenda.

Earlier last night there was some boxing on Channel 5.  In complete contrast to Chisora and Haye, Kid Galahad and Jason Booth summed up what boxing is meant to be about.  Galahad won by a huge margin (after being hit by a wild overhand from Booth and suffering from a flash knockdown in the first), but the two showed each other respect at the end, as did both corners.  It was a cracking fight and the two fighters conducted themselves admirably. 

They should be the ones commanding the ridiculous purses the heavyweights manage to command.

Your probably right, but me and the rest of the uneducated boxing fans would rather watch a couple of massive biffers at least pretend they are gonna knock each other out, they might not but we the hope they will. Far better than watching a couple of skinny arsed featherweights dicking about even if its technically a great fight.

Its the truth mate and you know it.

Don't really care what uneducated fans want to watch.  Wrestling gets massive numbers watching it, and if non-fight fans who tune in to watch pantomime they should stick with wrestling.

It's sad that it's always been the case the heavyweights are the marquee bouts, when technically the standard has always been below fighters of the lower divisions.

Sport is part of the entertainment industry, so it's all about what people enjoy seeing, not what is the best technically. There are plenty of entertainers who earn disproportionate amounts compared to others who are arguably better technically at what they do. People enjoy watching heavyweights more than other boxers, so they are willing to pay more and the participants earn more money. Sometimes the welterweight/middleweight level becomes very entertaining and there has been a succession of high-profile high-earning boxers at that level who were rewarded for their ability/entertainment value. Ultimately, though, virtually everyone who watches boxing wants to watch the heavyweights, even bad ones, but very few want to watch good bantamweights. So the lighter weights get paid what they are worth, which is measured by how many people want to watch them, not how technical they are.

So not "boxing" fans then, just "heavyweight world title fight" fans?

[MANTIS01]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

[AdamM]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting.

Behave.
Alistair Overeem, Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez, et al would murder these guys, even in a straight stand up fight, let alone allowing groundwork.

Biggest baddest boxers yes, fighters not a chance.

[kinboshi]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

200m runners go faster than the 100m runners, just saying.

[sovietsong]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

 

[smashedagain]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

 

I could watch Paula Radcliffe peeing over and over again.

[MintTrav]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

200m runners go faster than the 100m runners, just saying.

They should have a go at the 100m in that case.

[kinboshi]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

200m runners go faster than the 100m runners, just saying.

They should have a go at the 100m in that case.

Usain Bolt does both...

[ACE2M]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

200m runners go faster than the 100m runners, just saying.

They should have a go at the 100m in that case.

not sure thats true

[TheDazzler]

Heavyweight division will always get the glory from boxing fans because they're the biggest baddest gladiators in the sport of fighting. A small guy might be more technically gifted but ultimately he still gets knocked cold by the big guy in a fight. Just like how the 100m sprint champ has the glory of being the fastest in the world in the sport of running. Other sprinters might be technically better but the public wont be as interested in the slower guys with nice stride patterns.

200m runners go faster than the 100m runners, just saying.

They should have a go at the 100m in that case.

not sure thats true

I think he's saying that due to the fact that the 200m world record (19.19 sec) is less than twice the time of the 100m record (9.58 sec). The reason for that is that a human can run full speed for up to 300m (I think?) and so during a 200m race the athlete is already at peak speed when entering the 2nd 100m of the race, hence his overall speed (metres/second or whatever) is faster. The reason the 100m racer is 'slower' is due to the fact that he has to start from a standing start.
This is why the 100m relay record is faster still at 37.04 sec.

[kinboshi]

Yep, the top speed recorded for a human running was during the 200m, because of the reasons above.

Also, the 100m runners might be the marquee athletes for the occasional athletics fans, but the long-distance runners benefit from a longer career potentially.