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« Reply #600 on: May 27, 2012, 12:00:48 PM »

Froch was immense last night but the referee was a total disgrace IMO.

The ref. got busy in the first couple of rounds for no apparent reason other that to take centre-stage as far as I could see and then when it was obvious to all and sundry that the fight should have been stopped as Bute was clearly out on his feet and not capable of defending himself, he deemed it only worthy of a standing count. Where do the IBF find these guys?
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« Reply #601 on: May 27, 2012, 12:05:34 PM »

Carl Froch was superb last night.  You don't win World Titles if you are some kind of out of shape mug!

And to win a title against an undefeated opponent at the age of 35 is remarkable IMO

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« Reply #602 on: May 27, 2012, 12:06:47 PM »

is boxing judged on what you look like ?
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« Reply #603 on: May 27, 2012, 12:10:54 PM »

Froch was excellent last night and came into the ring looking very focused and up for it. Not sure of the calibre of Bute, but a 30-0 record suggests he's no mug.

Be interesting to see if the rematch clause is used by Bute, as it'd be a good payday for him, but can't see the result being any different.
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« Reply #604 on: May 27, 2012, 12:13:16 PM »

Froch was excellent last night and came into the ring looking very focused and up for it. Not sure of the calibre of Bute, but a 30-0 record suggests he's no mug.

Be interesting to see if the rematch clause is used by Bute, as it'd be a good payday for him, but can't see the result being any different.

I'd like to see Froch come in that focused and keep his hands that high vs Ward.
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« Reply #605 on: May 27, 2012, 12:14:31 PM »

Monda - legend
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« Reply #606 on: May 27, 2012, 12:57:00 PM »

Monda - legend

Not sure whether Monda is levelling here but Froch is a bona fide legend not because he is the best boxer ever but because he is probably the only top class British (and only one of a handful internationally) fighter that NEVER ducks a fight.  He has fought every single one of the best champions and contenders since the day he beat Jean Pascal.   In terms of the way he approaches his fights and just how he holds himself in general he is a wonderful example of what a boxer should be.
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« Reply #607 on: May 27, 2012, 04:48:25 PM »

Monda - legend

Not sure whether Monda is levelling here but Froch is a bona fide legend not because he is the best boxer ever but because he is probably the only top class British (and only one of a handful internationally) fighter that NEVER ducks a fight.  He has fought every single one of the best champions and contenders since the day he beat Jean Pascal.   In terms of the way he approaches his fights and just how he holds himself in general he is a wonderful example of what a boxer should be.

...and his missus is fit.
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« Reply #608 on: May 27, 2012, 04:51:09 PM »

Froch was excellent last night and came into the ring looking very focused and up for it. Not sure of the calibre of Bute, but a 30-0 record suggests he's no mug.

Be interesting to see if the rematch clause is used by Bute, as it'd be a good payday for him, but can't see the result being any different.

No chance Bute uses the rematch clause.  He will have been mentally scarred by last nights fight in much the same way Jeff Lacy was after he fought Calzaghe.  He was like a rabbit caught in headlights.  If they fight again the result would be exactly the same.  I think he will go back to Canada and go back to beating up the Magees, Brinkleys etc. although depending on how last nights defeat has affected him he may not even be able to do that as comfortably as he has in the past
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« Reply #609 on: May 27, 2012, 07:44:26 PM »

Monda - legend

Not sure whether Monda is levelling here but Froch is a bona fide legend not because he is the best boxer ever but because he is probably the only top class British (and only one of a handful internationally) fighter that NEVER ducks a fight.  He has fought every single one of the best champions and contenders since the day he beat Jean Pascal.   In terms of the way he approaches his fights and just how he holds himself in general he is a wonderful example of what a boxer should be.

I don't think someone should be classed as a legend because they haven't ducked fights, that just shows the state of boxing really.

Horseplayer - Obv his appearance has no relevance to his skill level and I was probably a tad harsh with my comments with regards to that, no way is he a legend though, imo.
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« Reply #610 on: May 27, 2012, 07:57:54 PM »

No point in really discussing it now- time will tell whether he obtains legend status. I just think he's a warrior of a boxer.
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« Reply #611 on: May 27, 2012, 08:00:13 PM »

No point in really discussing it now- time will tell whether he obtains legend status. I just think he's a warrior of a boxer.

Well yeah, it doesn't really matter if different people have a different opinion on who is/isn't a legend.

Good luck to him.
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« Reply #612 on: May 27, 2012, 08:01:12 PM »

The frustrating thing about Froch is the fights he's lost he so easily cold have won or had a much bigger say in. If he comes in as focused as last night he can beat anyone in the division.

He should beat Kessler. Then if Ward goes to light heavy he's got options.
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« Reply #613 on: May 28, 2012, 09:50:22 AM »

Johny Tapia found dead at 45

http://www.thejournal.ie/tapias-crazy-life-ends-at-45-465696-May2012/

Not surprised at all, always seemed like he was walking a tightrope in his life between the good and the demons
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« Reply #614 on: May 28, 2012, 01:14:17 PM »

Johny Tapia found dead at 45

http://www.thejournal.ie/tapias-crazy-life-ends-at-45-465696-May2012/

Not surprised at all, always seemed like he was walking a tightrope in his life between the good and the demons

A legend.  Thought he'd starting turning things round and was promoting and doing other work.  Obviously not.  RIP Johnny.
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