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« Reply #1260 on: July 16, 2013, 04:53:26 PM » |
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Not sure he had the technique to be in the elite or the movement to compensate.
However, he performed brilliantly in the Olympics and as much as it was a standing joke, he was Olympic Champ and that can't be taken away from him.
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« Reply #1261 on: July 16, 2013, 05:00:12 PM » |
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I do think he had/has fantastic technique. Just doesn't apply it.
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« Reply #1262 on: July 16, 2013, 05:55:47 PM » |
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I do think he had/has fantastic technique. Just doesn't apply it.
I have been as big a critic of Audrey (I'm reliably informed he is on the other side of the Atlantic...not that I'm scared) as anyone but its bit harsh to describe someone with an Olympic gold medal as not having drive or bottle. |
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« Reply #1263 on: July 16, 2013, 05:59:36 PM » |
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I think that's his biggest failing in his pro career. Maybe bottle and drive are the wrong words. How about grit and determination?
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« Reply #1264 on: July 16, 2013, 06:05:53 PM » |
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One theory would be the move from Amateur to Pro requires coping with getting hit harder and he just wasn't as keen when he was leaving himself liable to take a punch from an 18stone European beast without a headguard.
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« Reply #1265 on: July 16, 2013, 06:23:16 PM » |
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Froch vs Groves is looking ever more likely for November. Regretting not taking this so bad. I expected more because at the time he had only had 4 pro fights. I would say it his nailed on he picks up a title within the next 18 months. (not necessarily IBF from Froch tho..) Such a fish.  | Click to see full-size image. |
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« Reply #1266 on: July 16, 2013, 08:35:27 PM » |
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I think Audley's problems were definitely more mental than physical, however he is not the first amateur star to bomb in the pro game.
I think Groves matches up well against Froch. I'm surprised he is going down that route though given there are far easier routes for him to go down and the Froch fight would be much bigger if it was a unification battle.
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« Reply #1267 on: July 16, 2013, 08:43:05 PM » |
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Froch vs Groves is looking ever more likely for November. Regretting not taking this so bad. I expected more because at the time he had only had 4 pro fights. I would say it his nailed on he picks up a title within the next 18 months. (not necessarily IBF from Froch tho..) Such a fish. | Click to see full-size image. |
My heart says Georgie boy on points. Technically the better boxer imo (although slightly biased), but my head says Froch >6. Anyone else excited about the possibility of this? Yes I am very, very excited about it if it happens. Can I use my one time that it is the same weekend as the tips for tikay bash and I am in UK. |
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« Reply #1268 on: July 20, 2013, 08:17:34 AM » |
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I think Audley's problems were definitely more mental than physical, however he is not the first amateur star to bomb in the pro game.
I think Groves matches up well against Froch. I'm surprised he is going down that route though given there are far easier routes for him to go down and the Froch fight would be much bigger if it was a unification battle.
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« Reply #1269 on: July 22, 2013, 05:28:21 PM » |
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Froch v Groves, 23/11 in Manchester at MEN. Could be a good un.
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« Reply #1270 on: July 23, 2013, 11:16:35 AM » |
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Froch v Groves, 23/11 in Manchester at MEN. Could be a good un.
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« Reply #1271 on: July 23, 2013, 11:35:58 AM » |
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Froch v Groves, 23/11 in Manchester at MEN. Could be a good un.
We going? Got a tonne of mates going. Proper ringside is looking like being £2k & outter ringside £200. It's also the merseyside derby that day. Would be utter carnage. No way I would be able to swing a wknd away like that without a decent bink though. My missus seems to think redundancy and wknds away don't go in hand in hand.. will see what happens. Fight is being announced at 12 I think. |
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« Reply #1272 on: July 23, 2013, 12:57:01 PM » |
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Yeah bink needed gl us and the Saint.
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« Reply #1273 on: July 23, 2013, 02:48:57 PM » |
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4/1 Groves looks on the big side to me.
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« Reply #1274 on: July 23, 2013, 02:52:14 PM » |
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4/1 Groves looks on the big side to me.
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