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« Reply #3645 on: June 12, 2013, 09:16:48 PM »

Can't stop thinking about Vegas and the fucking Mirage....

thoughts?


hows things? in?
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« Reply #3646 on: June 13, 2013, 08:58:22 PM »

Can't stop thinking about Vegas and the fucking Mirage....

thoughts?


hows things? in?

O yea one more thing, I got a feelin'....

yea, what feeling is that?

i know you know this feeling..you know this feeling very well..i mean you got you table all set up, your fork, your knife, your A1 sauce..


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« Reply #3647 on: June 15, 2013, 02:15:40 AM »

What do we think of this??

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/3561719_7B57790E09
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« Reply #3648 on: June 15, 2013, 02:20:22 AM »

anby making it 5x pre is either a fish or just random spaz. not folding.

what happened to nl50?
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« Reply #3649 on: June 15, 2013, 02:26:35 AM »

anby making it 5x pre is either a fish or just random spaz. not folding.

what happened to nl50?

Having life complications and trying to grind better brm for the mean time.

#storycheckzout


Just general population tendancies will dictate I get shown AK minimum here most of the time, as 'silly' as it sounds I actually expected that exact turn bet and river sizing and to see AA.  Wanted to fold turn.

Don't see people doing this with JJ/ QQ/ and KK is hard to have.  Just looks like AK/ AA to me.

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« Reply #3650 on: June 15, 2013, 01:36:05 PM »

anby making it 5x pre is either a fish or just random spaz. not folding.

what happened to nl50?

Having life complications and trying to grind better brm for the mean time.

#storycheckzout


Just general population tendancies will dictate I get shown AK minimum here most of the time, as 'silly' as it sounds I actually expected that exact turn bet and river sizing and to see AA.  Wanted to fold turn.

Don't see people doing this with JJ/ QQ/ and KK is hard to have.  Just looks like AK/ AA to me.

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Why do u sometimes try and make people fold strong hands when u have nothing, then when u play a strong hand as a bluff catcher perfectly u fold? Surely u called pre for deception as much as anything hit dream flop then c/c c/c and checked river to let him bluff because if he checks behind u almost certainly are winning and u missed value. I may well be wrong cos I aint no hero but why not just pass turn if u gonna fold that river. I really dont know but u certainly confuse me. Poker confuses me. I wish u well cos I c some of myself sometimes in ur mindset and ur struggles. Hope u get where u want to be.
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« Reply #3651 on: June 16, 2013, 07:02:28 PM »

anby making it 5x pre is either a fish or just random spaz. not folding.

what happened to nl50?

Having life complications and trying to grind better brm for the mean time.

#storycheckzout


Just general population tendancies will dictate I get shown AK minimum here most of the time, as 'silly' as it sounds I actually expected that exact turn bet and river sizing and to see AA.  Wanted to fold turn.

Don't see people doing this with JJ/ QQ/ and KK is hard to have.  Just looks like AK/ AA to me.

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Why do u sometimes try and make people fold strong hands when u have nothing, then when u play a strong hand as a bluff catcher perfectly u fold? Surely u called pre for deception as much as anything hit dream flop then c/c c/c and checked river to let him bluff because if he checks behind u almost certainly are winning and u missed value. I may well be wrong cos I aint no hero but why not just pass turn if u gonna fold that river. I really dont know but u certainly confuse me. Poker confuses me. I wish u well cos I c some of myself sometimes in ur mindset and ur struggles. Hope u get where u want to be.

I see the hand like this..

- Dont have a profitable 3bt pre
- people generally dont go off on utg triple barrel bluffs at this level
- He has 5x pre, combined with the triple... just adds up to a range so heavily skewed towards AA/ AK that I feel the river is a pretty trivial fold
- I would fold the turn with the vast majority of my range, however I feel AK has to be a turn call to this sizing almost all the time - as long as it is followed up by a call: fold ratio on the river suitable to play vs his range on whatever the final card is.  By this I mean that im obv calling everytime we improve and probably calling on some rivers that shouldnt improve his range (potentially when 2nd pair pairs etc..)

Id be interested to see the ranges that you guys think he has when he plays the hand like this?


Newy - appreciate the criticism. 
I very rarely now try to bluff someone off of more than one pair, and also rarely do it with nothing... most I have a blocker or two and try to make it in spots where I'm more likely to have the better hand.

I know I get a little fruitier than other players and the better I time it and learn when to put the breaks on the more success I see.
one of the things I'm trying to improve the most is to make sure I put people in situations where they have a 0ev play.
As Honeybadger points out and has shown me, when their decision is 0ev it means ive 'won' the pot no matter what happens.


thanks for the good wishes.  Im certain there are plenty of people on blonde that enjoy the 'ride'.. even some that prefer to sweat a carcrash... but I know that my mentality in poker has improved so much over the last year or two.  I am confident that I can get to a level where im able to compete at a tough level and would like to be able to be profitable to a point where it can provide me some extra options in life - travelling to some new places, learning new games and strategies, being tested mentally and meeting some fun people.

one thing anyone who knows me would be certain of is that I absolutely
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« Reply #3652 on: June 17, 2013, 09:44:51 AM »

You don't think he's got worse Kings at all?

You've played the entire hand by assuming that because hes 5x'd it , he's got a super-premium hand. If you've got that bit wrong, then the rest of your logic doesn't really follow.
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« Reply #3653 on: June 17, 2013, 10:32:49 AM »

Is it impossible his thought process is..

Oh no JJ utg, dont want to play hand oop, I'll just take blinds down.
Villain chk/called two streets, obv has flush/combo draw
Better shove river for value, maybe even get better to fold once in a while.

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