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« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2011, 03:38:47 PM »

I think when looking at those ranges teh min click is really important. 99 and AQ look suspect to a min click

This is definitely a problem.
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« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2011, 03:47:06 PM »

I think when looking at those ranges teh min click is really important. 99 and AQ look suspect to a min click

Nico - take AA out of his range just for interest and see how it looks (ie would be flat AA)

I kinda agree but also we give fish far 2 much credit, they are capable of spazzing with amazing hands, and if the 4bettor showed up with a junk suited ace i'd be shocked but i've seen it b4 many times deep on in comps-maybe not so much in warm up/million type major but that dsnt mean the fish won't fish.

If we do take out the 99 and aqs we are still a fav and can post that in sec if wanted.

Anyway as requested guy. Makes us now....a 'huge' fav! Smiley

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  55,828,068,912  games   170.134 secs   328,141,752  games/sec

Board:
Dead:  

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    48.030%     46.98%    01.05%       26229202740    585234800.00   { QQ }
Hand 1:    30.713%     29.40%    01.32%       16410850332    735561638.00   { KK-99, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 2:    21.257%     20.44%    00.82%       11408981316    458238086.00   { 66+, A8s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
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« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2011, 03:53:54 PM »

Yeah if we got rid of  99&aqs but kept in aa for 4bettor.

Margy fav-i'm still happy with this spot.


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  51,913,195,488  games   155.952 secs   332,879,318  games/sec

Board:
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    41.698%     40.63%    01.07%       21091846356    555026434.00   { QQ }
Hand 1:    39.069%     37.65%    01.42%       19546918632    734822692.00   { TT+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2:    19.233%     18.37%    00.86%        9538057392    446523982.00   { 66+, A8s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }




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« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2011, 03:57:59 PM »

I think the maths show that this spot is v close and its not bad either way.

Therefore I would default to my in game reads and what a really thought the cold 4 bettor was capable of, and also how nitty the UTG raiser had been



(then fold )
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« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2011, 04:10:39 PM »

I think the maths show that this spot is v close and its not bad either way.

Therefore I would default to my in game reads and what a really thought the cold 4 bettor was capable of, and also how nitty the UTG raiser had been



(then fold )
I don't think it does bar when we give 4bettor 10s/ak+, which imo is ridic credit to a fish.

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« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2011, 04:33:22 PM »

go all in most of the time they cant call
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« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2011, 04:40:19 PM »

why are we giving the 3bet guy 66?
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« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2011, 04:51:14 PM »

why are we giving the 3bet guy 66?

he is short and all in to a liberal utg raiser
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« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2011, 04:52:17 PM »

why are we giving the 3bet guy 66?

I didn't assign this range but def agree with it. 3bettor is a fish according to OP and also only has ten bigs.

Tbh i'd be getting this in from his spot pretty wide, maybe not as low as 66 but cert not far off.

I mean i'm quite sure we all get 88/ajstd in here right?

I'm thinking folding 77 from him is prob too tight with blinds impending and a cert amount of dead money in pot, plus i'm not certain OR has to have such a snug range that aj/a10std isn't also going inwards.

10 bigs with blinds coming through soon, cert not a deep stack. Am even thinking 55/66 is almost fine-but that cld def be me being over aggro in this spot.
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« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2011, 06:42:10 PM »


  55,828,068,912  games   170.134 secs   328,141,752  games/sec

Board:
Dead:  

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    48.030%     46.98%    01.05%       26229202740    585234800.00   { QQ }
Hand 1:    30.713%     29.40%    01.32%       16410850332    735561638.00   { KK-99, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 2:    21.257%     20.44%    00.82%       11408981316    458238086.00   { 66+, A8s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }[/b]

well, anyone can fix a pokerstove to make the results w/e we want lol


Player,Equity,Wins Hi,Ties Hi
QQ,                                70.3192%,70.1471%,0.4652%
"23, 44-77, J5:xx",           14.7230%,14.4442%,0.6786%
"99, TT, 63, Q7:xx"         14.9578%,14.6277%,0.7810%

boom get it in.
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« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2011, 08:46:42 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2011, 12:54:20 AM »

Those ranges are hilarious.

If they're right then yes QQ is winning.

How you can be sure enough to risk 40 bigs I'll never know.

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« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2011, 01:37:43 PM »

This could be the ultimate "we dont need to know the hands pha thread"

but what happened?
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« Reply #58 on: July 27, 2011, 09:13:43 PM »

This could be the ultimate "we dont need to know the hands pha thread"

but what happened?


PokerStars Game #65018726537: Tournament #430020016, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (2500/5000) - 2011/07/24 21:29:35 WET [2011/07/24 16:29:35 ET]
Table '430020016 234' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: GO99APE (244519 in chips)
Seat 2: schwadda1976 (387814 in chips)
Seat 3: epitomised (217491 in chips)
Seat 4: Calvin32 (116719 in chips)
Seat 5: ediguadro (88245 in chips)
Seat 6: MrRepsak (325475 in chips)
Seat 7: gresuay (144852 in chips)
Seat 8: m.van damme (56604 in chips)
Seat 9: Finspb812 (213957 in chips)
GO99APE: posts the ante 500
schwadda1976: posts the ante 500
epitomised: posts the ante 500
Calvin32: posts the ante 500
ediguadro: posts the ante 500
MrRepsak: posts the ante 500
gresuay: posts the ante 500
m.van damme: posts the ante 500
Finspb812: posts the ante 500
epitomised: posts small blind 2500
Calvin32: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to epitomised [ ]
ediguadro: folds
MrRepsak: raises 5001 to 10001
gresuay: folds
m.van damme: raises 46103 to 56104 and is all-in
Finspb812: folds
GO99APE: raises 46103 to 102207
schwadda1976: folds
epitomised: raises 114784 to 216991 and is all-in
Calvin32: folds
MrRepsak: folds
GO99APE: calls 114784
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
epitomised: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Queens)
GO99APE: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Kings)
GO99APE collected 321774 from side pot
m.van damme: shows [ Ah] (high card Ace)
GO99APE collected 187813 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 509587 Main pot 187813. Side pot 321774. | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: GO99APE showed [ ] and won (509587) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: schwadda1976 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: epitomised (small blind) showed [ ] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: Calvin32 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: ediguadro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MrRepsak folded before Flop
Seat 7: gresuay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: m.van damme showed [ Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 9: Finspb812 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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« Reply #59 on: July 27, 2011, 09:23:39 PM »

fold he has KK  Tongue
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