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« Reply #885 on: October 12, 2011, 03:10:31 PM »

I have a friend who likes to think he deals with new business ideas and he told me I should start up an estate agents primarily dealing with Forces in the Midlands area as a lot of them like to rent or often buy in the area and end up selling up and moving on every 3 years or so. I just laughed in his face and said don't be ridic.

Is this idea as bad as i think it is? and how much would i need to get it off the ground?


Well our officecost over 50k to do a full refurb so it depends on which end of the market you are going to aim at but an average agents monthly cost if you put in staff advertisisng etc down South would be minimum 13-15k if you have a manager and 2 staff so if your average sale price is£150k up North and you manage an av fee of 1.5% each deal is worth 2250 plus vat so you need to contract 6-7 houses per month to break even which means you need to sell 9-10 per month as whatever the market conditions 1/3 sales fall through.

If yo combine that with lettings where you get 5-8% management fee on an average rent of say £500 up North thats £40 per prop per month it will take a long time before you have over 100 lets and really would want 300-400 plus you need seperate staff for both for it to really work!!

I would not set up now even if my 100k challenge came off!!

haha. nice one. Yea that was my gut reaction, which i went with. Now when i bink all the UKOPS events i will do something else with my cut.
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« Reply #886 on: October 12, 2011, 03:32:35 PM »

He wouldn't tell me much until its done! so I cant really answer these Sad he sold my house in two weeks so hes good. very good at getting customers to put their houses on at under the market level and selling them to his friends who also pay him in a brown envelope!!He did mention that he will offer free signups etc to hook estate agents in, but tbh baby was crying and i wasnt listening.

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Seriously though i cant see any website coming up that can rival Rightmoves hits so whilst we may take a free trial we would defo not pay a penny unless it got me the 10-15 enq per day rightmove does!!
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Rich - what if a new service could offer you 5 enquiries a day, and cost (for argument's sake) £50 a month?
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« Reply #887 on: October 12, 2011, 05:23:21 PM »

He wouldn't tell me much until its done! so I cant really answer these Sad he sold my house in two weeks so hes good. very good at getting customers to put their houses on at under the market level and selling them to his friends who also pay him in a brown envelope!!He did mention that he will offer free signups etc to hook estate agents in, but tbh baby was crying and i wasnt listening.

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Seriously though i cant see any website coming up that can rival Rightmoves hits so whilst we may take a free trial we would defo not pay a penny unless it got me the 10-15 enq per day rightmove does!!
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We told him the price we wanted, which was the ceailing for these houses. 20k more then all the others said it would get...if yer houses good + staged right they will come!
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« Reply #888 on: October 12, 2011, 05:26:05 PM »

I have a friend who likes to think he deals with new business ideas and he told me I should start up an estate agents primarily dealing with Forces in the Midlands area as a lot of them like to rent or often buy in the area and end up selling up and moving on every 3 years or so. I just laughed in his face and said don't be ridic.

Is this idea as bad as i think it is? and how much would i need to get it off the ground?


i would swerve this idea....

most forces live in barracks,

married live in the pads estate (houses owned by mod rented to married couples)

most would not be

1. not be able to afford private rent
2.not be able to afford to buy.
3.could not be bothered to buy if they could afford it.
4.preffer to live around /be with other army couples/family's.

only my opinion from experience.
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« Reply #889 on: October 12, 2011, 05:50:34 PM »

THE PROPERTY MARKET'S UPS N DOWNS!!

It's a funny old game!!
Came back from the weekend to find one deal teetering on the edge of collapse but the potential of 4-5 deals being put together, then i checked the daily sales log for the other offices to see that Leigh on Sea have sold £46'000k of fees Nett in 1 week which is an unbelievable result although i suppose it helps when you sell something at 2.2million and get a fee of 1.25%  MBN

Had a day off yesterday as Petra had a minor op done so needed to be with Maxwell for the day which was nice we had a few walks and played on the floor whilst Late night poker was on Sky+, Max didnt seem too bothered about the final hand with Fullflush vs Romanello but it was great TV!!

Back to work today and see that we tied up 2 deals yesterday and hopefully will get another 2 tied up today  Smiley we really need a good push on sales to the end of the year to give us a good pipeline of business going into 2012 as in our game if you can break even or show a profit in the 1st QTR it normally sets you up for a good year...
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« Reply #890 on: October 12, 2011, 05:54:17 PM »

He wouldn't tell me much until its done! so I cant really answer these Sad he sold my house in two weeks so hes good. very good at getting customers to put their houses on at under the market level and selling them to his friends who also pay him in a brown envelope!!He did mention that he will offer free signups etc to hook estate agents in, but tbh baby was crying and i wasnt listening.

FYP
Seriously though i cant see any website coming up that can rival Rightmoves hits so whilst we may take a free trial we would defo not pay a penny unless it got me the 10-15 enq per day rightmove does!!

Quoting hell, but never mind.

Rich - what if a new service could offer you 5 enquiries a day, and cost (for argument's sake) £50 a month?
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Daniel - well time would tell  eg we have just tried find a property on a 3 month basis at £25 per month but if not we will gladly come off this also    TBH its a bit like the newspapers and if the other agents stopped advertising i would come out of it as you get naff all enq but i i stopped myself they would all use it against you when presenting to potential vendors!!
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« Reply #891 on: October 12, 2011, 05:55:25 PM »

THE PROPERTY MARKET'S UPS N DOWNS!!

It's a funny old game!!
Came back from the weekend to find one deal teetering on the edge of collapse but the potential of 4-5 deals being put together, then i checked the daily sales log for the other offices to see that Leigh on Sea have sold £46'000k of fees Nett in 1 week which is an unbelievable result although i suppose it helps when you sell something at 2.2million and get a fee of 1.25%  MBN

Had a day off yesterday as Petra had a minor op done so needed to be with Maxwell for the day which was nice we had a few walks and played on the floor whilst Late night poker was on Sky+, Max didnt seem too bothered about the final hand with Fullflush vs Romanello but it was great TV!!

Back to work today and see that we tied up 2 deals yesterday and hopefully will get another 2 tied up today  Smiley we really need a good push on sales to the end of the year to give us a good pipeline of business going into 2012 as in our game if you can break even or show a profit in the 1st QTR it normally sets you up for a good year...
Pics of new boobs plz
Lolz  obv your account was hacked via Celtic!!
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« Reply #892 on: October 12, 2011, 06:12:13 PM »

THE PROPERTY MARKET'S UPS N DOWNS!!

It's a funny old game!!
Came back from the weekend to find one deal teetering on the edge of collapse but the potential of 4-5 deals being put together, then i checked the daily sales log for the other offices to see that Leigh on Sea have sold £46'000k of fees Nett in 1 week which is an unbelievable result although i suppose it helps when you sell something at 2.2million and get a fee of 1.25%  MBN

Had a day off yesterday as Petra had a minor op done so needed to be with Maxwell for the day which was nice we had a few walks and played on the floor whilst Late night poker was on Sky+, Max didnt seem too bothered about the final hand with Fullflush vs Romanello but it was great TV!!

Back to work today and see that we tied up 2 deals yesterday and hopefully will get another 2 tied up today  Smiley we really need a good push on sales to the end of the year to give us a good pipeline of business going into 2012 as in our game if you can break even or show a profit in the 1st QTR it normally sets you up for a good year...
Pics of new boobs plz
Lolz  obv your account was hacked via Celtic!!

Will PM you the photos Fett.
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« Reply #893 on: October 12, 2011, 07:03:09 PM »

I have a friend who likes to think he deals with new business ideas and he told me I should start up an estate agents primarily dealing with Forces in the Midlands area as a lot of them like to rent or often buy in the area and end up selling up and moving on every 3 years or so. I just laughed in his face and said don't be ridic.

Is this idea as bad as i think it is? and how much would i need to get it off the ground?


i would swerve this idea....

most forces live in barracks,

married live in the pads estate (houses owned by mod rented to married couples)

most would not be

1. not be able to afford private rent
2.not be able to afford to buy.
3.could not be bothered to buy if they could afford it.
4.preffer to live around /be with other army couples/family's.

only my opinion from experience.

I did swerve the idea but more due to property market as opposed to the forces. Disagree with a fair bit of what you said.

My dad did 26 yrs in the Army, in the 16 yrs he was in we always had a house and rented it out whilst living on the patch. When i was in i had a house which i lived in, now I'm out i live on the patch with my missus and rent a house.
Living on the patch at £200 a month including council tax, people should be able to afford to knock a deposit together imo.
I lived in a place called Branston dubbed Raf Branston due to the amount of forces who live there (about 80% forces personnel), its not like the old days when people pissed their wages up the wall. I see young people joining up and renting/buying straight away instead of living the block life.
Some people undoubtedly will enjoy living and getting involved with other couples etc majority i know certainly don't.
 
Certainly was different back in the day but there has been a massive change in mind set. This could just be the RAF, Lincs or my trade in particular. (i was in intelligence don't you know) But who knows.

Only from my experience of course. The fact remains it was a shit idea and glad i didn't see it through. Especially since Eso put figures to the thoughts. Yikes! Will keep my office job and continue to keep my eyes open for opportunities.
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« Reply #894 on: October 12, 2011, 07:40:43 PM »

I did swerve the idea but more due to property market as opposed to the forces. Disagree with a fair bit of what you said.

My dad did 26 yrs in the Army, in the 16 yrs he was in we always had a house and rented it out whilst living on the patch. When i was in i had a house which i lived in, now I'm out i live on the patch with my missus and rent a house.
Living on the patch at £200 a month including council tax, people should be able to afford to knock a deposit together imo.
I lived in a place called Branston dubbed Raf Branston due to the amount of forces who live there (about 80% forces personnel), its not like the old days when people pissed their wages up the wall. I see young people joining up and renting/buying straight away instead of living the block life.
Some people undoubtedly will enjoy living and getting involved with other couples etc majority i know certainly don't.
 
Certainly was different back in the day but there has been a massive change in mind set. This could just be the RAF, Lincs or my trade in particular. (i was in intelligence don't you know) But who knows.

Only from my experience of course. The fact remains it was a shit idea and glad i didn't see it through. Especially since Eso put figures to the thoughts. Yikes! Will keep my office job and continue to keep my eyes open for opportunities.

Think it must have been the generation after I was at Chicksands because in 2002 operation smashed was in full force. Everyone was still ironing all their dough out in Mission and that dodgy club across the road from the Litten Tree Cheesy
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« Reply #895 on: October 12, 2011, 07:42:12 PM »

I did swerve the idea but more due to property market as opposed to the forces. Disagree with a fair bit of what you said.

My dad did 26 yrs in the Army, in the 16 yrs he was in we always had a house and rented it out whilst living on the patch. When i was in i had a house which i lived in, now I'm out i live on the patch with my missus and rent a house.
Living on the patch at £200 a month including council tax, people should be able to afford to knock a deposit together imo.
I lived in a place called Branston dubbed Raf Branston due to the amount of forces who live there (about 80% forces personnel), its not like the old days when people pissed their wages up the wall. I see young people joining up and renting/buying straight away instead of living the block life.
Some people undoubtedly will enjoy living and getting involved with other couples etc majority i know certainly don't.
 
Certainly was different back in the day but there has been a massive change in mind set. This could just be the RAF, Lincs or my trade in particular. (i was in intelligence don't you know) But who knows.

Only from my experience of course. The fact remains it was a shit idea and glad i didn't see it through. Especially since Eso put figures to the thoughts. Yikes! Will keep my office job and continue to keep my eyes open for opportunities.

Think it must have been the generation after I was at Chicksands because in 2002 operation smashed was in full force. Everyone was still ironing all their dough out in Mission and that dodgy club across the road from the Litten Tree Cheesy

Haha, no shit! i was one of em. Litten tree, the place above KFC! i waited 5yrs til i got my gaff when everyone else stopped going out.
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« Reply #896 on: October 12, 2011, 08:15:18 PM »

I have a friend who likes to think he deals with new business ideas and he told me I should start up an estate agents primarily dealing with Forces in the Midlands area as a lot of them like to rent or often buy in the area and end up selling up and moving on every 3 years or so. I just laughed in his face and said don't be ridic.

Is this idea as bad as i think it is? and how much would i need to get it off the ground?


i would swerve this idea....

most forces live in barracks,

married live in the pads estate (houses owned by mod rented to married couples)

most would not be

1. not be able to afford private rent
2.not be able to afford to buy.

3.could not be bothered to buy if they could afford it.
4.preffer to live around /be with other army couples/family's.

only my opinion from experience.
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« Reply #897 on: October 12, 2011, 08:30:27 PM »

I have a friend who likes to think he deals with new business ideas and he told me I should start up an estate agents primarily dealing with Forces in the Midlands area as a lot of them like to rent or often buy in the area and end up selling up and moving on every 3 years or so. I just laughed in his face and said don't be ridic.

Is this idea as bad as i think it is? and how much would i need to get it off the ground?


i would swerve this idea....

most forces live in barracks,

married live in the pads estate (houses owned by mod rented to married couples)

most would not be

1. not be able to afford private rent
2.not be able to afford to buy.
3.could not be bothered to buy if they could afford it.
4.preffer to live around /be with other army couples/family's.

only my opinion from experience.

I did swerve the idea but more due to property market as opposed to the forces. Disagree with a fair bit of what you said.

My dad did 26 yrs in the Army, in the 16 yrs he was in we always had a house and rented it out whilst living on the patch. When i was in i had a house which i lived in, now I'm out i live on the patch with my missus and rent a house.
Living on the patch at £200 a month including council tax, people should be able to afford to knock a deposit together imo.
I lived in a place called Branston dubbed Raf Branston due to the amount of forces who live there (about 80% forces personnel), its not like the old days when people pissed their wages up the wall. I see young people joining up and renting/buying straight away instead of living the block life.
Some people undoubtedly will enjoy living and getting involved with other couples etc majority i know certainly don't.
 
Certainly was different back in the day but there has been a massive change in mind set. This could just be the RAF, Lincs or my trade in particular. (i was in intelligence don't you know) But who knows.

Only from my experience of course. The fact remains it was a shit idea and glad i didn't see it through. Especially since Eso put figures to the thoughts. Yikes! Will keep my office job and continue to keep my eyes open for opportunities.

FWIW from an ex infantryman of 23 years and settled within a large Garrison area:

Times have changed and without the current markets being what they are, there may be a little merit in the idea tbh.

I'll use the Scottish Infantry as an example.

Until the last round of amalgamations we had individual regiments, all based in different areas and would move approx every 3 years.

The amalgamtion produced one large Royal Regiment of Scotland, divided into 5 regular Battallions (1-5 Scots)

Each Battallion is now permanantly based (Edinburgh, Penicuik, Inverness, Fallingbostel and Canterbury) These units will not move from these garrisons, however individual soldiers can elect to cross post from one to another.

Young soldiers, on the whole, are more savvy than us old school "get paid, piss it up within the first weekend and be skint for the remainder of the month" types.

Young people now recognise the importance of getting onto the property market as early as possible. I live in an area where there are 3 barracks occupied by 1 Scots, 2 Scots and 3rd Rifles. Whilst each barracks has an allocated "patch" of married quarters I have many neighbours from these regiments who have felt it better to purchase or rent properties in the surrounding area.

I would imagine it may be the same in other Garrison areas.

When the markets do pick up again, I would imagine it may well be profitable to chase the military buyers/renters, however wouldn't rely solely on this as a business plan.

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« Reply #898 on: October 13, 2011, 08:09:55 AM »

Sounds like things have changed I honestly can't remember one single guy who rented or bought outside of military issue!

I remember as a private soldier having just enough money to see me thru the first two weeks of the month..
Sounds Like everything might of changed!

I was not knocking the idea for the sake of it just remembering what it was like when I was in Warminster for instance
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« Reply #899 on: October 13, 2011, 11:58:14 AM »

ANOTHER 2 DEALS DONE YESTERDAY!!

Whoop Whoop The deals I thought would come together did so were now half way towards our self imposed target of £30k Nett Sales for the month despit losing 2 deals worth £6200 total, NO BOOM just some hard work gone into getting the deals put together.

Were still negging a further 3 deals which need a bit of TLC but should come together early next week, it really shows you how easy it was from 2000-2007 when you could have anyone in an office earning good money as buyers would ring up - view that evening - be phoning you at 8am the next morning to make their full asking price offer - job done.

Now it can take a week to tie up a deal and if you ever sell anything at asking price you question if the buyer is all there...

Oh just 1 bet yesterday and had a nifty on Redarmi's Tranmere tip on BF   oi oi ship the £150, if you want to lose a very small amount or break even on the year defo follow his diary if you want to win the world   follow mine.
Seriously though it just goes to show the difference between a pro-punter and a punter in terms of the thought process he goes through as most people back something if they fancy it as opposed to the price being 10% wrong!!
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