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Pinchop73
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« on: September 15, 2011, 09:39:14 PM »

Before I cbet the flop I just KNEW this flop had hit their ranges hard, but with stack sizes I was just like, meh.

Should I have found the fold button here? I'm suffering atm, starting to question even the simplest spots.

***** Hand History for Game 67560070498 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 15, 04:17:10 ET 2011
Table 432568496 3 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: manut0r ( $1578.00 USD )
Seat 2: armandeke ( $11617.00 USD )
Seat 3: jediwithaces ( $4408.00 USD )
Seat 4: FMLtilliWin ( $3862.00 USD )
Seat 5: BAMARRAMMA ( $3482.00 USD )
Seat 6: Carloss86 ( $2125.00 USD )
Seat 7: MiikkaTarmo ( $8929.00 USD )
Seat 8: Ultraballs18 ( $3251.00 USD )
Seat 9: Stakattak ( $7667.00 USD )
Carloss86 posts small blind [$75.00 USD].
MiikkaTarmo posts big blind [$150.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Ultraballs18 [   ]
Ultraballs18 raises [$333.00 USD]
Stakattak folds
manut0r folds
armandeke folds
jediwithaces calls [$333.00 USD]
FMLtilliWin calls [$333.00 USD]
BAMARRAMMA folds
Carloss86 folds
MiikkaTarmo calls [$183.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
MiikkaTarmo checks
Ultraballs18 bets [$888.00 USD]
jediwithaces raises [$3179.00 USD]
FMLtilliWin raises [$3529.00 USD]
MiikkaTarmo folds
Ultraballs18 calls [$2030.00 USD]
jediwithaces calls [$350.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
jediwithaces shows [, ]
FMLtilliWin shows [, ]
FMLtilliWin wins $1222.00 USD from main pot
Ultraballs18 shows [, ]
FMLtilliWin wins $10161.00 USD from main pot
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 09:54:11 PM »

How the fuck does it not all go in pre?

Get over this quickly.

Never ever fold this hand on this flop with this stack.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 10:07:23 PM »

How the fuck does it not all go in pre?

Get over this quickly.

Never ever fold this hand on this flop with this stack.

Yup
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 10:17:19 PM »

I know that in theory it's ridic to fold.

But 99-JJ is such a large part of their flatting range. I could even see someone hooding KK-AA here.

I just wondered if I could fold to the cold 3bet otf?
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 10:29:34 PM »

almost always have 2 outs here.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 10:30:34 PM »

Didn't even look at the hand history tbh.

Just saw stacks and flop and that was enough.

Don't over complicate something so simple.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 10:34:37 PM »

If you think they are flatting AA and KK pre you must also consider the following hands that they could flat and go bust with...

AK, AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, KT, Q9, Q8, JT (ok this one beats us), J9, J8 (Valoooooo call pre obv), connected and semi connected diamonds also including A4dd etc etc, 99 (he has blockers to the straight draw and you might even have AK!).... ad infinitum...
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 10:44:54 PM »

Their range is never that wide in this spot bud. I had AK/AQ/KQ, but not much else apart from 99+
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 10:51:12 PM »

Whats the buyin on the event?

I havn't played it but remember it as being an $11 donkament or something...
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2011, 12:00:47 AM »

Their range is never that wide in this spot bud. I had AK/AQ/KQ, but not much else apart from 99+

What you asking for then?

If you know their ranges this accurately you should pwn them and fold.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2011, 02:25:43 PM »

How the fuck does it not all go in pre?


+1 wtf

if ever there was a spot to fold this hand it might be here, but I don't see how you can possibly fold. just get it in and hit a queen or runner a striaght of flush imo
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