Expose hand ruleing

[leethefish]

£10 2 re buy tourney at local gala me and mate left in the pot and he shoves the flop laughing at me I have a flush draw I have no intention of calling but I say to dealer I ain't folding and turn my hand over ( I would never normally do this ) but its one of my best mates and he is laughing at me.
The dealer now declares my hand dead I ask for a ruling and floor declared hand dead.
The normal ruling is one orbit penalty ??

[Rotty]

On what grounds is your hand dead ??

The dealer could have seen your actions as a call but at the very least should have asked for clarification of whether you have called or not

[leethefish]

On what grounds is your hand dead ??

The dealer could have seen your actions as a call but at the very least should have asked for clarification of whether you have called or not

My Point as far as I was concerned my hand was live

[dik9]

DEMZ GALA RULES lol

[leethefish]

DEMZ GALA RULES lol
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Please answer this rich I wanna show the cardroom manager the general ruling not just dtd's

[dik9]

I can give you loads of written rules saying your hand is not dead, but unfortunately each Gala has it's own house rules. If they state that your hand is dead if exposed then it is dead unfortunately. Getting Gala's rules online is redic tough though as believe it or not each Gala uses different rules lmao.

[leethefish]

I can give you loads of written rules saying your hand is not dead, but unfortunately each Gala has it's own house rules. If they state that your hand is dead if exposed then it is dead unfortunately. Getting Gala's rules online is redic tough though as believe it or not each Gala uses different rules lmao.

But obv dtd ukipt etc hand live one orbit penalty?

[dik9]

Ranges from a verbal warning to disqualification, generically most rules state the hand is live but you will receive a penalty after the hand.

On the other hand if you say that "You ain't folding" then turn your cards over after the guy has pushed. Then you should be made to call with no penalty as you have basically said you have called then flipped.

[leethefish]

Thanks rich

[Killerkilsby]

Lee,

Gala Leicesters rules differ from most usually due to the fact that no senior members of staff no the game very well at all.

When i dealt there we were specifically told any exposed cards = hand dead.

There is a sheet of rules oppo the tourney buy in desk check them out if u have another issue as they have to follow them.

P.S cant believe you would fold a fd!

[zerofive]

I can confirm this is also the ruling in Nottingham Gala. I was playing in a hand where I was faced with a tough turn decision for my stack, and the player to my left was coming back from a cigarette break and as he sat down, caught a glimpse of my hand. The pit boss saw this and warned me to keep my hand very close to the felt else he would have to kill my hand. I was outraged even at the suggestion, as my cards were concealed, just not covered. It would have only been possible to see my hand were you stood directly behind me, and I had no intention of tabling it, but they were very strict and almost sadistic about this rule.

Agree this is an awful rule, and you will not find it anywhere else, but I'm afraid that's Gala for you.

[boldie]

Am I missing something here?

Oppo shoves the flop and you tell the dealer "I'm not folding". Surely that means you call and have turned your cards over as it's an all-in situation?

[leethefish]

Am I missing something here?

Oppo shoves the flop and you tell the dealer "I'm not folding". Surely that means you call and have turned your cards over as it's an all-in situation?

yes but as in by showing my cards saying this is not a fold

[celtic]

£10 2 re buy tourney at local gala me and mate left in the pot and he shoves the flop laughing at me I have a flush draw I have no intention of calling but I say to dealer I ain't folding and turn my hand over ( I would never normally do this ) but its one of my best mates and he is laughing at me.
The dealer now declares my hand dead I ask for a ruling and floor declared hand dead.
The normal ruling is one orbit penalty ??

Why not?

[zerofive]

Am I missing something here?

Oppo shoves the flop and you tell the dealer "I'm not folding". Surely that means you call and have turned your cards over as it's an all-in situation?

yes but as in by showing my cards saying this is not a fold

I was a little confused by other people's reaction to this. Would be nice to get Rich to clear this one up again, though I'm sure I had a similar conversation with him once. "I'm not folding," after the bet has taken place can't be binding. He has not said "call," and he has not influenced the action. If he were to say "if you go all-in, I'm not going to fold," then this could be construed as binding. If this is incorrect, please explain why.