1/2 river spot

[pleno1]

fold pre, its a liiiiitle too low.

[cambridgealex]

fold pre, its a liiiiitle too low.

I'm raising close to 100% of my range on the button with weak players in the blinds. 82suited, Q6o, no problem. Surprised you'd fold pre.

[pleno1]

im raising reallllllllllly wide, but this is probbly jsut out the range, i'm opening 45s which means that this is like super borderline for me and still most likely going to be +ev without taking into accout metagame, reads, gqameflow etc.

[SuuPRlim]

I think the difference between 45 and 53 suited in this spot is pretty negligable, technically its prolly best to fold both but pretty much all of us if we were playing 25 hands an hour would look down at down card of the same colour pretty near each other and just be incapable of not playing

[cambridgealex]

I think the difference between 45 and 53 suited in this spot is pretty negligable, technically its prolly best to fold both but pretty much all of us if we were playing 25 hands an hour would look down at down card of the same colour pretty near each other and just be incapable of not playing

how is it "technically" best to fold 45suited on the button ffs?!

[SuuPRlim]

I think the difference between 45 and 53 suited in this spot is pretty negligable, technically its prolly best to fold both but pretty much all of us if we were playing 25 hands an hour would look down at down card of the same colour pretty near each other and just be incapable of not playing

how is it "technically" best to fold 45suited on the button ffs?!

4high, dominated suits, nearly impossible to overflop someone etc

a bunch of shamefully nitty reasons real men don't give a shit about

[Honeybadger]

Bit of confusion here cos the HH states that the CO has open limped, so it is not like we are opening on the BTN when it is folded round to us.

FWIW... If it had been folded round to the BTN I think 53 suited is fine to open-raise with. Although it is not like "wow this is a super profitable spot", and we could often choose to open-fold instead depending on reads/dynamics with the blinds.

In the actual hand itself, I think it all depends on the nature of the open-limper in the CO. If he plays weak-tight/fit-or-fold postflop then it is fine to isolate with the 53 suited. If he is a complete station postflop then we would prefer higher cards that can make decent pairs - and in this case I don't think there is anything wrong with over-limping rather than isolating.

[pleno1]

I think the difference between 45 and 53 suited in this spot is pretty negligable, technically its prolly best to fold both but pretty much all of us if we were playing 25 hands an hour would look down at down card of the same colour pretty near each other and just be incapable of not playing

how is it "technically" best to fold 45suited on the button ffs?!

4high, dominated suits, nearly impossible to overflop someone etc

a bunch of shamefully nitty reasons real men don't give a shit about

[ ] 4 high

[SuuPRlim]

we flopped three of a type though, so good spot open imo

[AlexMartin]

jam online, 25 live. its the old guys case money, he doesnt want to have to leave.

[craiggg999]

Sorry for late reply, Cut off limper is a very weak passive player hence the iso and confusion on river as to what to do. Is what makes this spot tougher than you would first imagine!