ITT Julian Thew takes us to the streets @ BBP Live

[nirvana]

tbf, you should just go all in on the flop ainec.

We're playing the country's most prestigious tournament, there are reporters around and all in looks pretty cool.

If some muppet says 'we're only getting called by better'. Just say pussy

[pleno1]

People worry too much about balance when there is NO need for it here.

checking flop is fine/sexy.

why

people are 3barrelling alot atm in poker imo when they put someone on a weak range. cbetting into 3 looks semi strong and doubt we get many floats utg vs 2 players. cant see many aces in either of their ranges, so think best way of getting multiple streets is under reping our hand and getting somebody to be creative. its live ffs its boring and people like to spew.

i dont like river lead as we never do this with kk and looks like we have an ace, and utg we should have big aces.

Overthink a simple spot much?

lol what? he opened the barrels after we checked? almost exactly proving our point right no?

[pleno1]

i think its quite simple/std but u asked me to expand.

[GreekStein]

People worry too much about balance when there is NO need for it here.

checking flop is fine/sexy.

why

people are 3barrelling alot atm in poker imo when they put someone on a weak range. cbetting into 3 looks semi strong and doubt we get many floats utg vs 2 players. cant see many aces in either of their ranges, so think best way of getting multiple streets is under reping our hand and getting somebody to be creative. its live ffs its boring and people like to spew.

i dont like river lead as we never do this with kk and looks like we have an ace, and utg we should have big aces.

Overthink a simple spot much?

lol what? he opened the barrels after we checked? almost exactly proving our point right no?

I meant this....

'people are 3barrelling alot atm in poker imo when they put someone on a weak range'.

Don't people barrel a lot anyway when they think someone is weak? Why is that a recent trend?

I think check - calling twice looks more like AJ/AK/A10 than most other hands and I think our range to c-bet this flop is wider than our range to check call it.

Why can't you see many aces in their ranges aside from one being in hero's hand and one being on the board. Seems fairly std for someone to flat pre with A9s or AQ

[pleno1]

calling w/aq utg+1 would be an error, as would calling a9s imo

[pleno1]

i'd maybe 3bet both though :d

[GreekStein]

calling w/aq utg+1 would be an error, as would calling a9s imo

Disagree

[mondatoo]

Peeling with AQ here is abs fine.

[cambridgealex]

Peeling with AQ here is abs fine.

Ldo

[pleno1]

ok if people think calling aq is fine, then he should probably go for a few streeets of value too right? anyway its such a dry flop that we're gponna get more value from checking and inducing his bluffing range that cbetting and getting called from a9s etc.

[GreekStein]

ok if people think calling aq is fine, then he should probably go for a few streeets of value too right? anyway its such a dry flop that we're gponna get more value from checking and inducing his bluffing range that cbetting and getting called from a9s etc.

I think a lot of players might stab this once, poss twice but don't normally go for 3 barrells here. I think the only reason Jules shoved the river was the blocker.

[Patonius2000]

I'd usually bet the flop but checking is fine. This is actually the best hand to do it with if you are going to have a c/c range. Before someone tells me balance doesn't matter i'd just remind them that this is a poker forum so obviously we're going to talk about theory and ranges and balance, rather than irrelevant population reads like "this is lollivepoker so always bet". I have no idea what you are doing on the river, seems like the most obvious c/c ever. I suppose you are value betting. Please don't categorise bets as blocker bets it is stupid, just stick to "value bets" and "bluffs" and you'l be fine. Showing your hand is ridiculous, particularly in this spot where you're basically folding the top of your range. I suppose you are trying to be friends with him but just remember that in poker we are not trying to be friends with people; we are trying to crush them for every cent they have.

[pleno1]

gd post

[EvilPie]

I think you've played it absolutely fine up to the river where you totally butcher it.

Check/calling 3 streets is a good way to extract value and also limit risk this early in a deep stacked comp oop.

Your hand looks so much like an under pair your oppo is always going to be repping that ace by firing the 3rd barrel.

He's repped it twice, he can't stop now and let your 99/tt/jj win at showdown.

The fact you've got the A with a nut kicker means that you also beat a good chunk of his value range where he's put you on the under pairs but thinks you'll hero him.

By putting out a river bet you give him the chance to raise and make his hand look even stronger that it did. This is why you have the decision with a good hand yourself.

What were stacks at the start of the hand?

Does Julian have you well covered? If he does you could make the river bet to induce the jam if you fancy getting funky.

If not leading the river is just a mess because bet folding here sucks.

[SuuPRlim]

The fact you've got the A with a nut kicker means that you also beat a good chunk of his value range

i dont think this is true personally but i think a lot of people will disagree with me