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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 11:18:23 AM »

You're playing in a high stakes game and someone is holding their cards up so they are easy to see constantly.

Two times already you've said to keep them down otherwise you might be able to see them, now you're in a pot with him and hes still doing it, if you were to make a very small effort to lean back you'd prolly be able to see his hand.

Is it ethically wrong to just straight up look at them here?

Yes. Don't make the 'small effort'.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2011, 11:23:21 AM »

I would announce to him what his cards are, and tell him this is the last time your warning him and if he does it again you shall say nothing and play accordingly.
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 11:25:01 AM »

I would announce to him what his cards are, and tell him this is the last time your warning him and if he does it again you shall say nothing and play accordingly.

kinda agree, but never doing it if i have a single chip in the pot
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2011, 11:38:14 AM »

don't make the effort to look ..... but if you see someones cards tell them you have seen them...... ethical its wrong to look on purpose very wrong.

next time they do it tough titties
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2011, 12:00:52 PM »

The question seems to be: 'Should I lean back in my chair and cheat?' I don't see how this can ever be a yes.

Even if you don't have to make any effort, I'd still just announce that I've seen his cards. There's no way I'd feel uncomfortable playing the streets when I know his precise holding when he, and no one else at the table knows that I know.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2011, 12:23:47 PM »

real question is after you've looked, how are we gonna get him to fold this hand
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2011, 03:38:25 PM »

  ^^ tell him you have two black kings : )
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2011, 03:56:14 PM »

You've told him twice, definitely look.

You'd blind someone off online if they disconnected and were silly enough not to have a backup connection right? This guy knows you've seen his hand before and still doesn't fix the problem. Fair game imo.
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2011, 03:58:42 PM »

If you've warned him and his cards are in your natural line of sight I think its fine and his own fault and mbn etc.

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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2011, 05:21:56 PM »

Just look and don't tell anyone. Not your fault he is a dick
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2011, 05:26:26 PM »

You've told him twice, definitely look.

You'd blind someone off online if they disconnected and were silly enough not to have a backup connection right? This guy knows you've seen his hand before and still doesn't fix the problem. Fair game imo.
Lol. No wonder you are so good h/u. How may times have you blinded someone off when they disconnected
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2011, 05:36:52 PM »

I played a $2k HUSNG a few years ago and there was a power cut.

Before the days of dongles and the like.

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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2011, 05:47:35 PM »

You should be seen to be going out of your way NOT to gain an advantage from this spot. And you should do your best to help this guy learn to protect his hand properly. If he continues to show... continue to help him.

It is not only a question of ethical considerations; acting in any other way is simply bad for business.

Anyone who thinks otherwise does not truly understand how to be a long-term success in gambling.
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2011, 05:50:22 PM »

You should be seen to be going out of your way NOT to gain an advantage from this spot. And you should do your best to help this guy learn to protect his hand properly. If he continues to show... continue to help him.

It is not only a question of ethical considerations; acting in any other way is simply bad for business.

Anyone who thinks otherwise does not truly understand how to be a long-term success in gambling.

Disagree with this whole statement.
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2011, 05:50:56 PM »

WWYD if you arrive to play some other day and same guy is at the table but you are seated opposite side of the table from him, however the person currently next to him will probably be able to see his cards every hand.
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