Public Sector Strikes

[boldie]

It does show though that only the rich can be taxed more to effectively get more money in.

That was a point of mine earlier, increasing tax might not increase revenues and vice versa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve)

Or, to quote JFK:
"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

Now I can't be sure that applies now but it seems, politically, discussion about whether or not we could increase revenues by cutting taxes is unpalatable.

Obv you're right, it is about finding the ideal taxation point...but does anyone really know what it is?

[Bongo]

I imagine that enough data exists for the experts to have an educated guess... My point is more the argument over the 50p tax rate seems to ignore this entirely.

[outragous76]

omg!

The desperation of a terrible strike hits

I hadnt heard the Jeremy Clarkson kerfuffle, but having heard what UNISON have just said - i lol'd hard

#worldgonemad

[ACE2M]

i am not a pie in the sky 'tax the rich' lefty btw, although i do think they should be taxed more!

Please expand on why you think this.

Maybe he means they should lower the taxes for the rich as that makes them pay more?

Why don't you post some opinions that can be dissected instead of throwing in the odd pointless post that makes you look like a twat.

I am happy to extend on my opinions, and happy for them to be disected I wont even call anyone a twat.

I own part of a company with 2 other people.

The company creates 70 jobs, and through these and the corporation tax and VAT bills we chuck a cheeky mirrion into the government pot.

They then ask me after all of that for an obscene chunk of anything I try to take myself.

I like to think that creating all that tax is a little help to them, to the point that maybe we should be let off a little bit of our own tax, but you seem to think I should be taxed even more which I find a little unfair and that's what I was interested in.

Tax me much more and I will have to go and live somewhere else!

i know bongo is not a twat but i was getting annoyed with the keyboard warrior snipes. He still hasn't answered my question....


Taxing you more will motivate you to be more succesful to earn more money to cover the amount you're losing, win win?

[Solaris]

It's somewhat ironic that on a forum in which people make their living through something we all agree is a skill game, yet pay no tax on their winnings, that people are advocating others paying more tax.

Hmm.

[Solaris]

omg!

The desperation of a terrible strike hits

I hadnt heard the Jeremy Clarkson kerfuffle, but having heard what UNISON have just said - i lol'd hard

#worldgonemad

He advocated shooting everyone that went on strike. 

[AndrewT]

Clarkson was just doing what he always does, which is trolling, and this time he's got a major biter.

[Jon MW]

i am not a pie in the sky 'tax the rich' lefty btw, although i do think they should be taxed more!

Please expand on why you think this.

Maybe he means they should lower the taxes for the rich as that makes them pay more?

Why don't you post some opinions that can be dissected instead of throwing in the odd pointless post that makes you look like a twat.

I am happy to extend on my opinions, and happy for them to be disected I wont even call anyone a twat.

I own part of a company with 2 other people.

The company creates 70 jobs, and through these and the corporation tax and VAT bills we chuck a cheeky mirrion into the government pot.

They then ask me after all of that for an obscene chunk of anything I try to take myself.

I like to think that creating all that tax is a little help to them, to the point that maybe we should be let off a little bit of our own tax, but you seem to think I should be taxed even more which I find a little unfair and that's what I was interested in.

Tax me much more and I will have to go and live somewhere else!

i know bongo is not a twat but i was getting annoyed with the keyboard warrior snipes. He still hasn't answered my question....


Taxing you more will motivate you to be more succesful to earn more money to cover the amount you're losing, win win?

Taxing more motivates those that can do to move to places which don't tax as much

And at the level just below that it just de-motivates people to work any harder

[david3103]

omg!

The desperation of a terrible strike hits

I hadnt heard the Jeremy Clarkson kerfuffle, but having heard what UNISON have just said - i lol'd hard

#worldgonemad

He advocated shooting everyone that went on strike. 

[ ] he meant it
[ ] people who complained should be taken seriously

• people who complained should be taken out and shot [ ] literally

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100120977/jeremy-clarksons-critics-should-be-taken-out-and-shot/

[Solaris]

omg!

The desperation of a terrible strike hits

I hadnt heard the Jeremy Clarkson kerfuffle, but having heard what UNISON have just said - i lol'd hard

#worldgonemad

He advocated shooting everyone that went on strike. 

[ ] he meant it
[ ] people who complained should be taken seriously

• people who complained should be taken out and shot [ ] literally

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100120977/jeremy-clarksons-critics-should-be-taken-out-and-shot/

[X] using boxes when they're not needed is extremely fucking tedious

[david3103]

I think that whatever this strike has cost the economy should be deducted from their pensions.
 

how about what the strike generated for the economy being put into their pensions?

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/883416-public-sector-strike-leaves-shopping-centres-full-as-retailers-cash-in

[Bongo]

i know bongo is not a twat but i was getting annoyed with the keyboard warrior snipes. He still hasn't answered my question....

Taxing you more will motivate you to be more succesful to earn more money to cover the amount you're losing, win win?

WEEE!

I think your question was based on a faulty premise, I was talking about 2 different things really...
1) The coalition's plan (and how I don't think it's good, just I don't see any better ones).
2) How talk of taxing the rich more never takes into account things like the Laffer Curve

You still haven't answered the question of what would you do differently?

[ACE2M]

i know bongo is not a twat but i was getting annoyed with the keyboard warrior snipes. He still hasn't answered my question....

Taxing you more will motivate you to be more succesful to earn more money to cover the amount you're losing, win win?

WEEE!

I think your question was based on a faulty premise, I was talking about 2 different things really...
1) The coalition's plan (and how I don't think it's good, just I don't see any better ones).
2) How talk of taxing the rich more never takes into account things like the Laffer Curve

You still haven't answered the question of what would you do differently?

I don't know what we are meant to do, but without growth their plans are not plausable, i fear they are jsut trying to ride it out until natural growth occurs. Everything they have done has either been anti growth or inadequate, the autumn statement announcements seemed to be a few token gestures to try to keep everyone on side.

Its impossible to cut the deficit while driving up unemployment and driving down investement.

[Woodsey]

omg!

The desperation of a terrible strike hits

I hadnt heard the Jeremy Clarkson kerfuffle, but having heard what UNISON have just said - i lol'd hard

#worldgonemad

Lol I thought the strikers were wankers before, but seriously they need to get a life after this nonsense.

Also the funny thing is they keep saying how the country is supporting them, I haven't met a single person who supports them yet!

[Jon MW]

i know bongo is not a twat but i was getting annoyed with the keyboard warrior snipes. He still hasn't answered my question....

Taxing you more will motivate you to be more succesful to earn more money to cover the amount you're losing, win win?

WEEE!

I think your question was based on a faulty premise, I was talking about 2 different things really...
1) The coalition's plan (and how I don't think it's good, just I don't see any better ones).
2) How talk of taxing the rich more never takes into account things like the Laffer Curve

You still haven't answered the question of what would you do differently?

I don't know what we are meant to do, but without growth their plans are not plausable,...

The economy is growing - so that's okay then