blonde poker forum
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 22, 2013, 03:21:12 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
Order through Amazon and help blonde Poker
1752979 Posts in 59159 Topics by 20506 Members
Latest Member: Pokerstarmie
* Home Help Arcade Search Calendar Guidelines Login Register
Dusk Till Dawn Poker
+  blonde poker forum
|-+  Poker Forums
| |-+  Poker Hand Analysis
| | |-+  QQ		 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] Go Down Print
Author Topic: QQ  (Read 702 times)
celtic
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 13549



View Profile
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2011, 08:50:37 PM »
I folded, not sure I woulda folded to Mr dubious. Utg limper had aa ofc, dubious guy folded AK.
Logged
Any hour, any day. You'll find us all, doing the Lambeth Walk. Hey!
railtard1
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1792


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM »
what do we do with KK?
Logged
TommyD
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 542


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2011, 11:26:28 AM »
Quote from: railtard1 on December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
what do we do with KK?

Cry?

Surely it still should be a fold if we are sure that UTG is only capable of doing this with KK+.  Yes in game I would still call it off, they are Kings obviously, but in theory when UTG is playing so face up isn't it still a fold?
Logged
celtic
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 13549



View Profile
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2011, 11:58:52 AM »
Quote from: railtard1 on December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
what do we do with KK?

I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here?
Logged
Any hour, any day. You'll find us all, doing the Lambeth Walk. Hey!
mulhuzz
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1177



View Profile
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2011, 03:30:17 PM »
Quote from: celtic on December 03, 2011, 11:58:52 AM
Quote from: railtard1 on December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
what do we do with KK?

I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here?

Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here?
Logged
celtic
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 13549



View Profile
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2011, 03:32:42 PM »
Quote from: mulhuzz on December 03, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: celtic on December 03, 2011, 11:58:52 AM
Quote from: railtard1 on December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
what do we do with KK?

I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here?

Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here?

Nah, think he prob does the same with KK, but not with QQ
Logged
Any hour, any day. You'll find us all, doing the Lambeth Walk. Hey!
SuuPRlim
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 7167



View Profile
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2011, 12:10:03 AM »
Quote from: mulhuzz on December 03, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: celtic on December 03, 2011, 11:58:52 AM
Quote from: railtard1 on December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
what do we do with KK?

I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here?

Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here?

the difference is that KK blocks KK (lol) so if say he is light here X% of the time, the 12 combos of AA/KK (assuming no other value hand) become 7 and its means he is marginally more likely to have air by taking 44%ish of his value hands out. However in reality he is prolly light here >2% (if that) so the difference is completely negligable.
Logged
http://lildaveslife.blogspot.com/
www.thefirmpoker.com
mulhuzz
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1177



View Profile
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2011, 01:42:06 AM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 04, 2011, 12:10:03 AM
Quote from: mulhuzz on December 03, 2011, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: celtic on December 03, 2011, 11:58:52 AM
Quote from: railtard1 on December 03, 2011, 10:24:08 AM
what do we do with KK?

I do a call Marc. Thoughts on folding QQ here?

Aren't QQ and KK the same hand here?

the difference is that KK blocks KK (lol) so if say he is light here X% of the time, the 12 combos of AA/KK (assuming no other value hand) become 7 and its means he is marginally more likely to have air by taking 44%ish of his value hands out. However in reality he is prolly light here >2% (if that) so the difference is completely negligable.

yh, i know it blocks, but this was my point..
Logged
muckthenuts
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 647



View Profile
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2011, 03:38:25 AM »
Interesting, since KK blocks KK do you think this make it an even more of a comfortable fold than QQ? Assuming villian will never make this play with jacks and queens only some of the time.

(Fwiw i have folded kings pre only once in a super obv spot otherwise never)
Logged
SuuPRlim
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 7167



View Profile
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2011, 04:23:15 AM »
Quote from: muckthenuts on December 04, 2011, 03:38:25 AM
Interesting, since KK blocks KK do you think this make it an even more of a comfortable fold than QQ? Assuming villian will never make this play with jacks and queens only some of the time.

(Fwiw i have folded kings pre only once in a super obv spot otherwise never)

no it makes it more of a get in because from a pure mathematical view he is MORE likely to be bluffing. although true stats are polly something like the % he has air increases by like 1.1% lol so its barely even worth talking about
Logged
http://lildaveslife.blogspot.com/
www.thefirmpoker.com
cambridgealex
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 11289


#Team_Eureka, The Goulden Empire.


View Profile
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2011, 05:12:32 AM »
maybe im missing the point but how are KK and QQ the same hand??!

If we have KK, we beat QQ. If we have QQ we're crushed by KK.

Am I on level one again? Huh?
Logged
Quote from: iangascoigne on April 21, 2013, 01:37:11 PM
   Perfectly natural to feel different being bust  out of a competition that has been so life changing and important to you in the past.I felt the same when I bust out of the Incredible Hundred.  
GreekStein
Hero Member
Hero Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 18577



View Profile
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2011, 08:06:30 AM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on December 04, 2011, 05:12:32 AM
maybe im missing the point but how are KK and QQ the same hand??!

If we have KK, we beat QQ. If we have QQ we're crushed by KK.

Am I on level one again? Huh?

We're saying they're the same vs villain's range
Logged
@GreekStein on twitter.

My blog here http://www.pokerencore.com/
Pages: 1 [2] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

Dusk Till Dawn Poker
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.301 seconds with 21 queries.