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SuuPRlim
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 05:08:21 PM »
Quote from: action man on December 23, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on December 23, 2011, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 23, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 22, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
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shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s here with this stack
Why this range?
because these hands are good hands to steal the blinds and antes with since they will have decent equity when called? maybe can be tighter on the suited kings and queens but apart from that it'd be my default
Why shove the topend of your range, surely raise call is better?
for balance
no need to balance against pigeons you will play 100 hands a year with. You only need to balance here if you have already built up history with the opponents, wherby they have seen you in this spot shove weak and raise/call the top-end which we probably don't have.
gotta remember as well that even if you have the history with an opponent who is capable of exploiting your unbalance here, the conbinatronic liklihood of him ACTUALLY being able to exploit you is quite small in live poker where the spot will crop up only 4-5times MAXIMUM, so the vacuum profit you get from playing an exploitable PF strategy vs the weaker players really does justify it imo.
I would always go with an exploitative vacuum play > any GTO plays in live poker cos that's how you win one specific tourney on one specific day, not that i'd know this ofc but I think I've seen flushy do it
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NigDawG
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 05:25:19 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 23, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 22, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 22, 2011, 09:47:20 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 20, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s here with this stack
Why this range?
because these hands are good hands to steal the blinds and antes with since they will have decent equity when called? maybe can be tighter on the suited kings and queens but apart from that it'd be my default
Why shove the topend of your range, surely raise call is better?
oh right yeh thought u were disputing the bottom of the range. KJss isn't strong enough for min raise/call here though imo. i want to win the blinds and antes first and foremost with this shallow a stack.
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 05:25:44 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: action man on December 23, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on December 23, 2011, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 23, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 22, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 22, 2011, 09:47:20 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 20, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s here with this stack
Why this range?
because these hands are good hands to steal the blinds and antes with since they will have decent equity when called? maybe can be tighter on the suited kings and queens but apart from that it'd be my default
Why shove the topend of your range, surely raise call is better?
for balance
no need to balance against pigeons you will play 100 hands a year with. You only need to balance here if you have already built up history with the opponents, wherby they have seen you in this spot shove weak and raise/call the top-end which we probably don't have.
gotta remember as well that even if you have the history with an opponent who is capable of exploiting your unbalance here, the conbinatronic liklihood of him ACTUALLY being able to exploit you is quite small in live poker where the spot will crop up only 4-5times MAXIMUM, so the vacuum profit you get from playing an exploitable PF strategy vs the weaker players really does justify it imo.
I would always go with an exploitative vacuum play > any GTO plays in live poker cos that's how you win one specific tourney on one specific day, not that i'd know this ofc but I think I've seen flushy do it
MEDIUM WEAK xxxxxx
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SuuPRlim
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December 23, 2011, 05:29:34 PM »
burn tittybean burn.
gl getting that $12 now
have a terrible christmas xxx
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titaniumbean
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 05:33:55 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
burn tittybean burn.
gl getting that $12 now
have a terrible christmas xxx
i'll consider it your Xmas pressie, better than you owing $300 and us both just forgetting like medium weak live tourny pros IS IT.
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SuuPRlim
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 05:54:54 PM »
Quote from: titaniumbean on December 23, 2011, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
burn tittybean burn.
gl getting that $12 now
have a terrible christmas xxx
i'll consider it your Xmas pressie, better than you owing $300 and us both just forgetting like medium weak live tourny pros IS IT.
yh agreed, knocking you for $300 is too much and greatly against the code of ethical grimming, $12 is fine I can sleep happily with that
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 06:29:26 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: action man on December 23, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on December 23, 2011, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 23, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 22, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 22, 2011, 09:47:20 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 20, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s here with this stack
Why this range?
because these hands are good hands to steal the blinds and antes with since they will have decent equity when called? maybe can be tighter on the suited kings and queens but apart from that it'd be my default
Why shove the topend of your range, surely raise call is better?
for balance
no need to balance against pigeons you will play 100 hands a year with. You only need to balance here if you have already built up history with the opponents, wherby they have seen you in this spot shove weak and raise/call the top-end which we probably don't have.
gotta remember as well that even if you have the history with an opponent who is capable of exploiting your unbalance here, the conbinatronic liklihood of him ACTUALLY being able to exploit you is quite small in live poker where the spot will crop up only 4-5times MAXIMUM, so the vacuum profit you get from playing an exploitable PF strategy vs the weaker players really does justify it imo.
I would always go with an exploitative vacuum play > any GTO plays in live poker cos that's how you win one specific tourney on one specific day, not that i'd know this ofc but I think I've seen flushy do it
that post sounds like Rob Yong trying to tell me (after sucking out with AT<A5 aip in our HU sng) that my AT was a bad call because although mathematically it's correct, we were only playing that match once so I should've waited for a better hand.
THE LONG RUN DOESN'T MATTER IF ITS JUST ONE HAND LDO
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titaniumbean
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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Reply #52 on:
December 23, 2011, 08:10:20 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:54:54 PM
Quote from: titaniumbean on December 23, 2011, 05:33:55 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:29:34 PM
burn tittybean burn.
gl getting that $12 now
have a terrible christmas xxx
i'll consider it your Xmas pressie, better than you owing $300 and us both just forgetting like medium weak live tourny pros IS IT.
yh agreed, knocking you for $300 is too much and
greatly against the code of ethical grimming
, $12 is fine I can sleep happily with that
<3 ethical grimming between friends.
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SuuPRlim
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 09:44:50 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on December 23, 2011, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: action man on December 23, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on December 23, 2011, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 23, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 22, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 22, 2011, 09:47:20 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 20, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s here with this stack
Why this range?
because these hands are good hands to steal the blinds and antes with since they will have decent equity when called? maybe can be tighter on the suited kings and queens but apart from that it'd be my default
Why shove the topend of your range, surely raise call is better?
for balance
no need to balance against pigeons you will play 100 hands a year with. You only need to balance here if you have already built up history with the opponents, wherby they have seen you in this spot shove weak and raise/call the top-end which we probably don't have.
gotta remember as well that even if you have the history with an opponent who is capable of exploiting your unbalance here, the conbinatronic liklihood of him ACTUALLY being able to exploit you is quite small in live poker where the spot will crop up only 4-5times MAXIMUM, so the vacuum profit you get from playing an exploitable PF strategy vs the weaker players really does justify it imo.
I would always go with an exploitative vacuum play > any GTO plays in live poker cos that's how you win one specific tourney on one specific day, not that i'd know this ofc but I think I've seen flushy do it
that post sounds like Rob Yong trying to tell me (after sucking out with AT<A5 aip in our HU sng) that my AT was a bad call because although mathematically it's correct, we were only playing that match once so I should've waited for a better hand.
THE LONG RUN DOESN'T MATTER IF ITS JUST ONE HAND LDO
that's nothing like what I meant lol.
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b4matt
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Re: Am I a piss weak mofo!?!?
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December 23, 2011, 09:55:29 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on December 23, 2011, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: action man on December 23, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on December 23, 2011, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 23, 2011, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 22, 2011, 10:32:44 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 22, 2011, 09:47:20 AM
Quote from: NigDawG on December 20, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
shoving a range of 22+ A2s+ A8o+ K4s+ KTo+ Q7s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s here with this stack
Why this range?
because these hands are good hands to steal the blinds and antes with since they will have decent equity when called? maybe can be tighter on the suited kings and queens but apart from that it'd be my default
Why shove the topend of your range, surely raise call is better?
for balance
no need to balance against pigeons you will play 100 hands a year with. You only need to balance here if you have already built up history with the opponents, wherby they have seen you in this spot shove weak and raise/call the top-end which we probably don't have.
gotta remember as well that even if you have the history with an opponent who is capable of exploiting your unbalance here, the conbinatronic liklihood of him ACTUALLY being able to exploit you is quite small in live poker where the spot will crop up only 4-5times MAXIMUM, so the vacuum profit you get from playing an exploitable PF strategy vs the weaker players really does justify it imo.
Sigh i am so out of my depth. I don't even understand some of the words in that sentence.
'conbinatronic' is my new fave ever word. Happy xmas all xx
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