Shipping range here? Deep in 8.80 6max turbo

[rfgqqabc]

Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (1,600/3,200 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: 128,327 (40.1 bb)
UTG: 66,676 (20.8 bb)
Hero (MP): 60,686 (19 bb)
CO: 52,823 (16.5 bb)
BTN: 73,029 (22.8 bb)
SB: 98,467 (30.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with X X
UTG folds, Hero raises to 60,286 and is all-in

19 bigs, 7.2k in the middle. Play has been pretty dam tight and i got away with raising lots before losing a flip. I'd probably min AA/KK/QQ and maybe AK but the rest of my range i'm putting in.

22+/ATs+/AJo/KJs+?

[TheFallen]

19biggs seems like a lot to be open shipping unless people play super exploitable (have bad calling ranges yet having very good re stealing strategies). I could be way off though.

Im guessing your min opening AA/KK/QQ to get action from people who have not noticed that you are shoving most of the time in this spot. I don't get why you want to min open AK though as it doesn't really play well on most flops. Or is the idea again based on peoples re-stealing vs calling shove tendencies being really skewed?

[rfgqqabc]

I'd gone from playing ~40/37 to getting played back at a little. I know what your saying with AK and would ship sometimes.

[NigDawG]

opponent dependent but range looks a bit off.

would look to be shoving suited aces and mid pairs. if opponents aren't reshoving then broadways become opens, if they are then shove yourself. would probs min raise call 88+ and A10+ and just fold 22/33

[NigDawG]

just read that play is tight, just raise fold/call

[action man]

my range here is a whole lot tighter than yours, i think its beyond spewy jamming 22/33 here, in fact im not jamming anything. Im r/c r/f ing all of my range.

[Solaris]

my range here is a whole lot tighter than yours, i think its beyond spewy jamming 22/33 here, in fact im not jamming anything. Im r/c r/f ing all of my range.

Definitely agree with this.

[MC]

I'm not jamming anything. Im r/c r/f ing all of my range.

+1

[rfgqqabc]

Not sure how much of a r/f range you should have with 19bigs :/

I shipped here with 33, and hated it pretty much instantly, i think just folding is so much better. I don't want to open and get reshipped on by  here, when i get them to fold by shipping. Ah well, live and learn. Ty guys

[SuuPRlim]

Not sure how much of a r/f range you should have with 19bigs :/

I shipped here with 33, and hated it pretty much instantly, i think just folding is so much better. I don't want to open and get reshipped on by  here, when i get them to fold by shipping. Ah well, live and learn. Ty guys

tiny pairs are bad in this spot, you have about 35% equity vs a stnd 3bet/call range (so im told so I imagine a range that calls a 19bb ship is proly gonna have similar equity) although you will be folding 55 and 66 prolly so thats one positive I guess.

it's kind of outdated to say that "you have 19bigs, so you can't raise fold" think of the utility value of the chips in the tournament as things stand, 19bigs might be too much to open ship, as might 17bigs so that give's you two oppurtunities to raise fold before your stack can no longer sustain it. I think stnd players in these tournaments will re-steal poorly but call a little over-liberally, i.e they prolly won't re-ship QhTh if you min, but they will prolly call off ATo if you jam. Vs these kind of players you can raise fold you heart away and you're not getting exploited by raise/folding off 19bigs and you can just min everything and call off as you see fit and thats always going to be a lower variance approach to the situation IF you're oppo's are not going to exploit with solid re-steals.

When you r/f twice and have 15bigs this is prolly a spot where you should be looking to open ship most of your range, unless you get dealt a really hand nextt time ofc

[rfgqqabc]

Not sure how much of a r/f range you should have with 19bigs :/

I shipped here with 33, and hated it pretty much instantly, i think just folding is so much better. I don't want to open and get reshipped on by  here, when i get them to fold by shipping. Ah well, live and learn. Ty guys

tiny pairs are bad in this spot, you have about 35% equity vs a stnd 3bet/call range (so im told so I imagine a range that calls a 19bb ship is proly gonna have similar equity) although you will be folding 55 and 66 prolly so thats one positive I guess.

it's kind of outdated to say that "you have 19bigs, so you can't raise fold" think of the utility value of the chips in the tournament as things stand, 19bigs might be too much to open ship, as might 17bigs so that give's you two oppurtunities to raise fold before your stack can no longer sustain it. I think stnd players in these tournaments will re-steal poorly but call a little over-liberally, i.e they prolly won't re-ship QhTh if you min, but they will prolly call off ATo if you jam. Vs these kind of players you can raise fold you heart away and you're not getting exploited by raise/folding off 19bigs and you can just min everything and call off as you see fit and thats always going to be a lower variance approach to the situation IF you're oppo's are not going to exploit with solid re-steals.

When you r/f twice and have 15bigs this is prolly a spot where you should be looking to open ship most of your range, unless you get dealt a really hand nextt time ofc

Every time you post its the absolute nuts. record an audio tape or 5 so i can have them playing in my ear

[paulhouk03]

i dont think u should ever be open shoving with more than 15 bb imo

[outragous76]

Saying you cant raise fold 19bbs ESP in a 6 max is poor thinking

I'm raise folding all day long off 19bbs

[rfgqqabc]

When i say "never" I mean, i tighten up alot 15-25 bigs and tend to not r/f in this range. I ship AJ etc with 15-20 bigs because i don't want to fold them and raising and getting called isn't always a great option, especially in ep. Maybe this is incorrect and i'm 100% sure i need to improve a lot at this stack size.

[outragous76]

I'm 3bet folding off 25bbs let alone raise folding

6 max is very different and people are prone to absolute spazzing and like to accommodate them. Open jamming abs minimises that ability.

You also turn your hand face up as you arent jamming premiums.

Don't worry about folding, ESP in low buy ins. You are not going to get exploited. In higher buy ins I'm inclined to call off 3 bet jams lighter, but always read dependant