Tips for Tikay

[tikay]

I want to run this bet past you Tony as it clashes slightly with your current snooker WC bets.

Ronnie is drawn in the same half as Trump who you have a 50 on at 7 or 8/1 ish, Trumps quarter of that half is softer too (seed wise). The word on the street tho is that Ronnie is abs striping it in his practice and is knocking balls in for fun against three different practice partners that are all good solid pro's. What might be the most important thing is he is seemingly loving the game. His quarter of the top half looks tricky with Ali Carter his 2nd round oppo, followed by Higgins and then Trump should it run to seeding's ( obv it usually doesn't)

So he should really be getting bigger in the market after that draw but he is actually getting shorter, which makes me think that there are plenty of people now in the know about his apparent good form and mindset.

So I can only see his price contracting further from now, partly because of his practice news and the fact the punters will want to be on. He is also due to play his first match on the first day of the comp too so will again be well backed in the days leading to the event starting as all the talk will be about his return.

The only prob with putting him up as a bet is you will have a Trump and Ronnie outright bet and they are in the same part of the draw but you can bet 7/1 fixed odds and that is the price they are asking for on BF now. We are trusting the info is right but its pretty solid so if you don't mind backing two players at shortish odds that are in the same half of the draw then maybe a 50 at 7/1 would be ok. Obv your qualifiers could end up in the same part of the draw if they get there too.

As a footnote too, if anyone is thinking of backing Mark Selby then it might make sense to wait until nearer the event.

Thanks Phil.

Personally, I think if Ronnie's head is in the right place, he will batter everyone, & I've had a good bet on him myself already.

My only question, which I need others & betters to answer, is how to balance that v the bet we already have on Trump. (£50 @ 8/1). Can we realistically do both, & if so, how much should we have on Ronnie? He is currently about 7.8 on Brtty.

[tikay]

Aah, Quiggers!

Nope, don't know him personally. I'm a freelancer now, sort of a crazy maverick, so don't know many of the office crew.

No Grand National preview repeats before 6pm. Just flicked on to the channel to see and you're on it as usual. You just tipped Ireland to do the Grand Slam in the Five Nations. How that work out? Oi oi!

FML - I just turned the TV on to see if the repeat was showing, & it was me - PRE-diet. Ugh. With Anna. Oooh.

First words I heard?

"I've got a really good tip for you all at home - Ireland to win Six Nations".

[TightEnd]

If you fancy Ronnie then yes you can do both, portfolio innit. One wins, portfolio still up

I accept he may well be tearing up practice, but a year off from the pressure situations that you can get in close ones at the Crucible?

Lack of match practice will hurt him when it counts imo.

[tikay]

I want to run this bet past you Tony as it clashes slightly with your current snooker WC bets.

Ronnie is drawn in the same half as Trump who you have a 50 on at 7 or 8/1 ish, Trumps quarter of that half is softer too (seed wise). The word on the street tho is that Ronnie is abs striping it in his practice and is knocking balls in for fun against three different practice partners that are all good solid pro's. What might be the most important thing is he is seemingly loving the game. His quarter of the top half looks tricky with Ali Carter his 2nd round oppo, followed by Higgins and then Trump should it run to seeding's ( obv it usually doesn't)

So he should really be getting bigger in the market after that draw but he is actually getting shorter, which makes me think that there are plenty of people now in the know about his apparent good form and mindset.

So I can only see his price contracting further from now, partly because of his practice news and the fact the punters will want to be on. He is also due to play his first match on the first day of the comp too so will again be well backed in the days leading to the event starting as all the talk will be about his return.

The only prob with putting him up as a bet is you will have a Trump and Ronnie outright bet and they are in the same part of the draw but you can bet 7/1 fixed odds and that is the price they are asking for on BF now. We are trusting the info is right but its pretty solid so if you don't mind backing two players at shortish odds that are in the same half of the draw then maybe a 50 at 7/1 would be ok. Obv your qualifiers could end up in the same part of the draw if they get there too.

As a footnote too, if anyone is thinking of backing Mark Selby then it might make sense to wait until nearer the event.

That sounds a bit cryptic, but it would seem that.......a tabloid story may or may not break about him......just before the World's start. If so, it will not help his focus.

[tikay]

If you fancy Ronnie then yes you can do both, portfolio innit. One wins, portfolio still up

I accept he may well be tearing up practice, but a year off from the pressure situations that you can get in close ones at the Crucible?

Lack of match practice will hurt him when it counts imo.

Thanks Rich.

Anyone else got a view? I'm on him already, so I'm hardly impartial. Biggest certainty since.....well, you know what I mean.

[tikay]

I was having a look at the IPL markets yesterday and saw one bet that I felt was standout. There is a top English batsmen market with four runners in Owais Shah, Azher Mahmood, Eoin Morgan and Luke Wright. Shah is currently 7/4 favourite but I think he collects well over half the time and would have expected him to be odds on.

My reasoning is this - Shah plays for the Rajasthan Royals who have been struggling in the past couple of editions. They are one of the lower spenders so their foreign acquisitions are modest (Watson and Tait being the standouts). Last year Shah played in 13 of their 16 games and scored 340 runs (averaging 37) which put him in the top 20 overall. He is an important part of their middle order and should feature prominently again.

Mahmood is second favourite at 9/4 and I can't fathom it. He made his IPL debut last year at 37 scoring 186 runs (at an average of 23). He tends to bat at 7 for his team the Kings XI and is not guaranteed a start with Kallis, Lee and Haddin shoo-ins for three of the four foreigner spots.

Wright and Morgan round out the market and are both available at 7/2. Morgan was unused by KKR in IPL5 and may not be a regular starter as KKR have a wealth of foreign options. He he does play, he seems to find it difficult to adapt to the Indian conditions as he averages just 14 in 18 games in the IPL. As a Sussex season ticket holder, Luke Wright is a favourite of mine but is likely to find starts hard to come by at Pune. They have a foreign captain in Angelo Matthews which ties up one of the four spots available. Mystery spinner Mendis was a marquee acquisition so you'd expect him to take another. That leaves two spots split between Ross Taylor, Marlon Samuels, Aaron Finch, Steve Smith, Mitchell Marsh and Kane Richardson. Richardson seems a logical choice given he went for a huge sum at auction so you can see where Wright will struggle. Wright is a great T20 player but isn't a 'sexy pick' like some of the afore mentioned.

Given the above, I'd recommend a £40 bet on Shah @7/4 with Boylesports or Stan James.

For better or worse.......

We have had ANOTHER £60 on this, after strong recommendation from the lads.

We took the 7/4 with Boyles, though I gather from Junior Chap that Stan James, where I am non persona grata, go 15/8.

We have (an additional) £60 @ 7/4, Boylesports, Shah, Top English Batterer, IPL.

ON

Bet ref: 82/80 Shah, Owais @ 7/4
Indian Premier League
Top England Batsman
Total stake £60.00
Estimated return £165.00
Full stake £60.00
Full estimated return £165.00

[TightEnd]

I want to run this bet past you Tony as it clashes slightly with your current snooker WC bets.

Ronnie is drawn in the same half as Trump who you have a 50 on at 7 or 8/1 ish, Trumps quarter of that half is softer too (seed wise). The word on the street tho is that Ronnie is abs striping it in his practice and is knocking balls in for fun against three different practice partners that are all good solid pro's. What might be the most important thing is he is seemingly loving the game. His quarter of the top half looks tricky with Ali Carter his 2nd round oppo, followed by Higgins and then Trump should it run to seeding's ( obv it usually doesn't)

So he should really be getting bigger in the market after that draw but he is actually getting shorter, which makes me think that there are plenty of people now in the know about his apparent good form and mindset.

So I can only see his price contracting further from now, partly because of his practice news and the fact the punters will want to be on. He is also due to play his first match on the first day of the comp too so will again be well backed in the days leading to the event starting as all the talk will be about his return.

The only prob with putting him up as a bet is you will have a Trump and Ronnie outright bet and they are in the same part of the draw but you can bet 7/1 fixed odds and that is the price they are asking for on BF now. We are trusting the info is right but its pretty solid so if you don't mind backing two players at shortish odds that are in the same half of the draw then maybe a 50 at 7/1 would be ok. Obv your qualifiers could end up in the same part of the draw if they get there too.

As a footnote too, if anyone is thinking of backing Mark Selby then it might make sense to wait until nearer the event.

That sounds a bit cryptic, but it would seem that.......a tabloid story may or may not break about him......just before the World's start. If so, it will not help his focus.

If this is correct I would like to suggest adding Robertson at 13/2 in the other side of the draw to Ronnie and Judd. Portfolio.

Ultra consistent, great all round game, recently won the China Open, and should flip flop favourtism with Selby if the news is negative

Three of the top 5 in the betting in the other half.....

http://www.oddschecker.com/snooker/world-championship/world-snooker-championship/winner

[Chompy]

Ronnie documentary on ITV tonight.

[tikay]

Ronnie documentary on ITV tonight.

Likely to make his price contract, then, & thus Robertson's price to get better?

[tikay]

I want to run this bet past you Tony as it clashes slightly with your current snooker WC bets.

Ronnie is drawn in the same half as Trump who you have a 50 on at 7 or 8/1 ish, Trumps quarter of that half is softer too (seed wise). The word on the street tho is that Ronnie is abs striping it in his practice and is knocking balls in for fun against three different practice partners that are all good solid pro's. What might be the most important thing is he is seemingly loving the game. His quarter of the top half looks tricky with Ali Carter his 2nd round oppo, followed by Higgins and then Trump should it run to seeding's ( obv it usually doesn't)

So he should really be getting bigger in the market after that draw but he is actually getting shorter, which makes me think that there are plenty of people now in the know about his apparent good form and mindset.

So I can only see his price contracting further from now, partly because of his practice news and the fact the punters will want to be on. He is also due to play his first match on the first day of the comp too so will again be well backed in the days leading to the event starting as all the talk will be about his return.

The only prob with putting him up as a bet is you will have a Trump and Ronnie outright bet and they are in the same part of the draw but you can bet 7/1 fixed odds and that is the price they are asking for on BF now. We are trusting the info is right but its pretty solid so if you don't mind backing two players at shortish odds that are in the same half of the draw then maybe a 50 at 7/1 would be ok. Obv your qualifiers could end up in the same part of the draw if they get there too.

As a footnote too, if anyone is thinking of backing Mark Selby then it might make sense to wait until nearer the event.

That sounds a bit cryptic, but it would seem that.......a tabloid story may or may not break about him......just before the World's start. If so, it will not help his focus.

If this is correct I would like to suggest adding Robertson at 13/2 in the other side of the draw to Ronnie and Judd. Portfolio.

Ultra consistent, great all round game, recently won the China Open, and should flip flop favourtism with Selby if the news is negative

Three of the top 5 in the betting in the other half.....

http://www.oddschecker.com/snooker/world-championship/world-snooker-championship/winner

Not averse, Ruch, it gives us both sides of the draw then, but we would then have THREE bets if we also do Ronnie(ignoring the Banzais), & the numbers (aggregate odds) get a bit thin then, do they not?

[TightEnd]

Forgetting the rags....

3 bets at £50 at 13/2,7/1,8/1 still gives you some margin

You may prefer 2 of the 3, agreed.

[maldini32]

Been looking at the IPL for a few weeks now. Really like Pune @ 10s, they've bought well and have some good Indian players.

Also some big prices for top batsman, Samuels @ 50s and Du Plessis @100s.

Also really like Yuvraj Singh top Indian @16s back him ew.

Ill leave the stakes to you.

Im on my phone atm, I'll explain later when my lappie is sorted.

[tikay]

Forgetting the rags....

3 bets at £50 at 13/2,7/1,8/1 still gives you some margin

You may prefer 2 of the 3, agreed.

Dilemmas, dilemmas.

Need to dither.

I already have Ronnie, off-thread, as it happens, so that may be key.

[tikay]

Been looking at the IPL for a few weeks now. Really like Pune @ 10s, they've bought well and have some good Indian players.

Also some big prices for top batsman, Samuels @ 50s and Du Plessis @100s.

Also really like Yuvraj Singh top Indian @16s back him ew.

Ill leave the stakes to you.

Im on my phone atm, I'll explain later when my lappie is sorted.

Thanks.

Need to make sure I understand that correctly.

Pune Outright.

Samuels & Du Plessis Top "Overall" Batters.

Jufraj Singh Top INDIAN Batsman.

That all correct?

Amazed at how many Markets there are, & I gather from office talk at work that IPl is a mich bigger Betting Event than I previously imagined. Not even proper cricket.

[bobby1]

If you fancy Ronnie then yes you can do both, portfolio innit. One wins, portfolio still up

I accept he may well be tearing up practice, but a year off from the pressure situations that you can get in close ones at the Crucible?

Lack of match practice will hurt him when it counts imo.

yes this is deffo a factor tho the way I looked at it was , if he had played in the last few events and you knew he was in good form and in the right place upstairs what price would he be then.

7/1 available fixed odds Tony if you wanted to bet, its better than taking the BF price with comm involved. Robertson does look the most solid start in the other half too.