Tips for Tikay

[arbboy]

Front page of bfsb

Ayr Raid
Conquer Gold (12:55) & Lake View Lad (14:00) BOTH TO WIN 9/4

7/4 best priced elsewhere double.

Max £100 would suggest the whole works.

and  this

Gold Rush
Conquer Gold (12:55 Ayr) & Miss Goldsmith (14:50 Southwell) BOTH TO WIN 7/1

Max £71 i had best priced 4/1 elsewhere.

Where has this come from betfair!

The two odds on pokes have both been gambled.  Miss Goldsmith has drifted like a barge.

[atdc21]

knocklade sno cat the gamble at the off

[arbboy]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

[JohnCharver]

conquer gold beaten, but nothing wrong with it as a bet, altho drifted like a barge before off. Beaten by a 24 race maiden tipped up by atdc on racing thread

[JohnCharver]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

They knew what? He was there at the finish, probably pretty close if he didnt jump badly at the last and the winners price didnt change, drifted from early show. If they knew then the winner would be gambled, that race in no way proved any point you have made. (zero financial investment other than a few quid on winner as per tip elsewhere). Gambled horse went out like a light.

atdc knew

[arbboy]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

They knew what? He was there at the finish, probably pretty close if he didnt jump badly at the last and the winners price didnt change, drifted from early show. If they knew then the winner would be gambled, that race in no way proved any point you have made. (zero financial investment other than a few quid on winner as per tip elsewhere).

The jolly drifted from 1.6 to 1.96 on bf. BF put the jolly in both bets of the price boost for a reason.  It would suggest they knew the jolly wasn't winning today via their client base.  They don't pay out on many 'price bombs/boosts' or whatever they call them very often.  Believe me i have sat and watched Barry Orr on RPGTV with a smug grin on his face enough times listening to his nonsense when they get beat.

I would be far more interested in laying betfair's price bombs than any other firm by a mile for the reasons i gave yesterday.  You are entitled to your opinion. 

[JohnCharver]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

They knew what? He was there at the finish, probably pretty close if he didnt jump badly at the last and the winners price didnt change, drifted from early show. If they knew then the winner would be gambled, that race in no way proved any point you have made. (zero financial investment other than a few quid on winner as per tip elsewhere).

The jolly drifted from 1.6 to 1.96 on bf. BF put the jolly in both bets of the price boost for a reason.  It would suggest they knew the jolly wasn't winning today via their client base.  They don't pay out on many 'price bombs/boosts' or whatever they call them very often.  Believe me i have sat and watched Barry Orr on RPGTV with a smug grin on his face enough times listening to his nonsense when they get beat.

I would be far more interested in laying betfair's price bombs than any other firm by a mile for the reasons i gave yesterday.  You are entitled to your opinion. 

Would this make the other two less or more likely to win? I mean if you sell boosts based around the same horse twice, surely the best way to sell the product in the future (without paying out obv) is to give out likely winners with it? Do they simply not care after selling a dud double.

[BorntoBubble]

Still both beating the prices i put them up at.

Shame the first horse couldnt get over the line i backed the tip in the racing thread for a bit of cover but didnt lay wish i did now!

[ripple11]

Conor Washington off to QPR

Up in smoke goes one of my best value bets ever.

Big sigh..... but thanks for the tip Chomps

[arbboy]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

They knew what? He was there at the finish, probably pretty close if he didnt jump badly at the last and the winners price didnt change, drifted from early show. If they knew then the winner would be gambled, that race in no way proved any point you have made. (zero financial investment other than a few quid on winner as per tip elsewhere).

The jolly drifted from 1.6 to 1.96 on bf. BF put the jolly in both bets of the price boost for a reason.  It would suggest they knew the jolly wasn't winning today via their client base.  They don't pay out on many 'price bombs/boosts' or whatever they call them very often.  Believe me i have sat and watched Barry Orr on RPGTV with a smug grin on his face enough times listening to his nonsense when they get beat.

I would be far more interested in laying betfair's price bombs than any other firm by a mile for the reasons i gave yesterday.  You are entitled to your opinion.  

Would this make the other two less or more likely to win? I mean if you sell boosts based around the same horse twice, surely the best way to sell the product in the future (without paying out obv) is to give out likely winners with it? Do they simply not care after selling a dud double.

The 2nd one is drifting like a barge as well.  Out to 3/1 on the exchange.  So if you take the bf sp of the first at evens.  You are getting 7/1 about a 7/1 double.  I stand by my point by the very nature of their business bf are more likely to know non triers and drifters than any other firm out there by a mile.

They don't randomly pick horses for these boosts like some firms do imo in big races.  Again this is just my opinion.  Beware of sharp operators offering you a carrot on non high profile events on a quiet Tues.  There is probably a reason.  Similar to when i offered huge prices on that tennis player not winning 2-0 back in 2004 in the bent game.   

[BorntoBubble]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

They knew what? He was there at the finish, probably pretty close if he didnt jump badly at the last and the winners price didnt change, drifted from early show. If they knew then the winner would be gambled, that race in no way proved any point you have made. (zero financial investment other than a few quid on winner as per tip elsewhere).

The jolly drifted from 1.6 to 1.96 on bf. BF put the jolly in both bets of the price boost for a reason.  It would suggest they knew the jolly wasn't winning today via their client base.  They don't pay out on many 'price bombs/boosts' or whatever they call them very often.  Believe me i have sat and watched Barry Orr on RPGTV with a smug grin on his face enough times listening to his nonsense when they get beat.

I would be far more interested in laying betfair's price bombs than any other firm by a mile for the reasons i gave yesterday.  You are entitled to your opinion.  

Would this make the other two less or more likely to win? I mean if you sell boosts based around the same horse twice, surely the best way to sell the product in the future (without paying out obv) is to give out likely winners with it? Do they simply not care after selling a dud double.

The 2nd one is drifting like a barge as well.  Out to 3/1 on the exchange.  So if you take the bf sp of the first at evens.  You are getting 7/1 about a 7/1 double.  I stand by my point by the very nature of their business bf are more likely to know non triers and drifters than any other firm out there by a mile.

They don't randomly pick horses for these boosts like some firms do imo in big races.  Again this is just my opinion.  Beware of sharp operators offering you a carrot on non high profile events on a quiet Tues.  There is probably a reason.  Similar to when i offered huge prices on that tennis player not winning 2-0 back in 2004 in the bent game.   

Why limit me to £100 and £70 respectively then if this is there plan.

Why not let me have £500 and then i will go to their exchange to lay back?

[arbboy]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

They knew what? He was there at the finish, probably pretty close if he didnt jump badly at the last and the winners price didnt change, drifted from early show. If they knew then the winner would be gambled, that race in no way proved any point you have made. (zero financial investment other than a few quid on winner as per tip elsewhere).

The jolly drifted from 1.6 to 1.96 on bf. BF put the jolly in both bets of the price boost for a reason.  It would suggest they knew the jolly wasn't winning today via their client base.  They don't pay out on many 'price bombs/boosts' or whatever they call them very often.  Believe me i have sat and watched Barry Orr on RPGTV with a smug grin on his face enough times listening to his nonsense when they get beat.

I would be far more interested in laying betfair's price bombs than any other firm by a mile for the reasons i gave yesterday.  You are entitled to your opinion.  

Would this make the other two less or more likely to win? I mean if you sell boosts based around the same horse twice, surely the best way to sell the product in the future (without paying out obv) is to give out likely winners with it? Do they simply not care after selling a dud double.

The 2nd one is drifting like a barge as well.  Out to 3/1 on the exchange.  So if you take the bf sp of the first at evens.  You are getting 7/1 about a 7/1 double.  I stand by my point by the very nature of their business bf are more likely to know non triers and drifters than any other firm out there by a mile.

They don't randomly pick horses for these boosts like some firms do imo in big races.  Again this is just my opinion.  Beware of sharp operators offering you a carrot on non high profile events on a quiet Tues.  There is probably a reason.  Similar to when i offered huge prices on that tennis player not winning 2-0 back in 2004 in the bent game.  

Why limit me to £100 and £70 respectively then if this is there plan.

Why not let me have £500 and then i will go to their exchange to lay back?

No idea you will have to ask them that.   You do that and they will simply close your sportsbook account for arbing (which is probably the whole point of this exercise in the first place) and they get to close an account for no ev cost which is price sensitive.  Seems good business for bf.

[doubleup]

They knew!  Friendless goes off close to evens bf sp (1.96)

They knew what? He was there at the finish, probably pretty close if he didnt jump badly at the last and the winners price didnt change, drifted from early show. If they knew then the winner would be gambled, that race in no way proved any point you have made. (zero financial investment other than a few quid on winner as per tip elsewhere).

The jolly drifted from 1.6 to 1.96 on bf. BF put the jolly in both bets of the price boost for a reason.  It would suggest they knew the jolly wasn't winning today via their client base.  They don't pay out on many 'price bombs/boosts' or whatever they call them very often.  Believe me i have sat and watched Barry Orr on RPGTV with a smug grin on his face enough times listening to his nonsense when they get beat.

I would be far more interested in laying betfair's price bombs than any other firm by a mile for the reasons i gave yesterday.  You are entitled to your opinion.  

Would this make the other two less or more likely to win? I mean if you sell boosts based around the same horse twice, surely the best way to sell the product in the future (without paying out obv) is to give out likely winners with it? Do they simply not care after selling a dud double.

The 2nd one is drifting like a barge as well.  Out to 3/1 on the exchange.  So if you take the bf sp of the first at evens.  You are getting 7/1 about a 7/1 double.  I stand by my point by the very nature of their business bf are more likely to know non triers and drifters than any other firm out there by a mile.

They don't randomly pick horses for these boosts like some firms do imo in big races.  Again this is just my opinion.  Beware of sharp operators offering you a carrot on non high profile events on a quiet Tues.  There is probably a reason.  Similar to when i offered huge prices on that tennis player not winning 2-0 back in 2004 in the bent game.   

I really doubt that Betfair are getting any info from their markets.  The liquidity is far too poor for any significant early movements.  Someone looking to lay a horse would be acting 5 mins before the off.

[arbboy]

One way or another betfair know these horses are going to drift large (the same way as their dog price boosts always do).  Whether they use their markets/loltraders/software/ratings/winning punters informing them via their early price action whatever the bottom line is 2 of these 3 horses have drifted like a barge in these price boosts.  8/13 to evens the first one and 13/8 to over 3/1 now (exchange prices obv).  This doesn't happen by chance on a quiet Tues imo when they select two horses to price boost and put the same one in twice in 2 doubles.  Stinks to high heaven to me tbh.  Don't say i am after timing either because i said this 18 hours ago.

[cheapwetsuit]

In the cycling, Caleb Ewan won an impressive bunch sprint, and our boy, Grmay, finished safely in the pack. On the plus side, none of the favourites picked up any time bonuses ... on the down side, Grmay did a lot of work in the peloton for Lampre. Tomorrow's hilly parcours should thin out the field a touch.

https://youtu.be/pIK2tFZzp-4