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[hhyftrftdr]

On Saturday York City travel to Braintree in the Conference norf or whatever its called these days. York are my hometown club so I always have half an eye on how they are doing, and it has been pretty grim for a while. The cherry on what has been an awful cake for the last 18 months was Tuesday night where they were hammered by bottom of the league part timers Guiseley 6-1. York haven't won away for 29 games now, Guiseley had 3 points from 13 games before Tuesday.

Jackie McNamara is an extremely unpopular manager amongst the fans and, from what I gather, amongst the players too. It's been reported in the local press tonight that he has one game to save his job. It seems unlikely the players are gonna be fighting for a manager they don't even want. I'm pretty sure most fans would be happy to see York beat at the weekend if it means the end of McNamara, such is the disdain they have for him.

Braintree are pretty poor themselves, sitting 22nd in the table (York are 20th, 3 points ahead), however York are so bad at the moment, especially away from home, that I was surprised to see Braintree were 7/5.

Rec £30 on Braintree at 7/5 with choral. Would rec more if Braintree weren't also a bit shit, but I think most pub teams could beat York at the moment.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/non-league/national-league/braintree-town-v-york-city/winner

[Killerkilsby]

On Saturday York City travel to Braintree in the Conference norf or whatever its called these days. York are my hometown club so I always have half an eye on how they are doing, and it has been pretty grim for a while. The cherry on what has been an awful cake for the last 18 months was Tuesday night where they were hammered by bottom of the league part timers Guiseley 6-1. York haven't won away for 29 games now, Guiseley had 3 points from 13 games before Tuesday.

Jackie McNamara is an extremely unpopular manager amongst the fans and, from what I gather, amongst the players too. It's been reported in the local press tonight that he has one game to save his job. It seems unlikely the players are gonna be fighting for a manager they don't even want. I'm pretty sure most fans would be happy to see York beat at the weekend if it means the end of McNamara, such is the disdain they have for him.

Braintree are pretty poor themselves, sitting 22nd in the table (York are 20th, 3 points ahead), however York are so bad at the moment, especially away from home, that I was surprised to see Braintree were 7/5.

Rec £30 on Braintree at 7/5 with choral. Would rec more if Braintree weren't also a bit shit, but I think most pub teams could beat York at the moment.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/non-league/national-league/braintree-town-v-york-city/winner

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Heres a naive view.

In a league with no real fans and thus no crazy atmosphere how does away performance mean anything? I get in Premier league certain grounds are harder but at this level really?

Fact is both teams are god awful and anyone can win? Form is relevant but they are above them
In the league, I struggle to see how home/away form can matter at this
Level.

[bergeroo]

I think it is also about travelling distance at this level with away games. Yes there are no intimidating atmopsheres for the most part but the away team has to travel down, if they stay over the night before, it will not be luxurious etc, away from families etc. Home team has a normal routine. I would say that this accounts for home/away bias at this level.

[The Camel]

On Saturday York City travel to Braintree in the Conference norf or whatever its called these days. York are my hometown club so I always have half an eye on how they are doing, and it has been pretty grim for a while. The cherry on what has been an awful cake for the last 18 months was Tuesday night where they were hammered by bottom of the league part timers Guiseley 6-1. York haven't won away for 29 games now, Guiseley had 3 points from 13 games before Tuesday.

Jackie McNamara is an extremely unpopular manager amongst the fans and, from what I gather, amongst the players too. It's been reported in the local press tonight that he has one game to save his job. It seems unlikely the players are gonna be fighting for a manager they don't even want. I'm pretty sure most fans would be happy to see York beat at the weekend if it means the end of McNamara, such is the disdain they have for him.

Braintree are pretty poor themselves, sitting 22nd in the table (York are 20th, 3 points ahead), however York are so bad at the moment, especially away from home, that I was surprised to see Braintree were 7/5.

Rec £30 on Braintree at 7/5 with choral. Would rec more if Braintree weren't also a bit shit, but I think most pub teams could beat York at the moment.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/non-league/national-league/braintree-town-v-york-city/winner

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Heres a naive view.

In a league with no real fans and thus no crazy atmosphere how does away performance mean anything? I get in Premier league certain grounds are harder but at this level really?

Fact is both teams are god awful and anyone can win? Form is relevant but they are above them
In the league, I struggle to see how home/away form can matter at this
Level.

I disagree massively. I think home advantage against a team travelling for more than about 50 miles is massive in non league football.

It's likely they will get a coach on the morning of the match, to save money on a hotel, and will arrive stiff and board about 2 hours prior to the match.

Hardly ideal preparation for a game.

[TightEnd]

i think that is all correct. early start on a saturday morning arrive at ground 1pm, warm up at 2pm play at 3pm

very rare to get overnight stay the night before


anyway, my only question is the York situation is widely known.

for example this appeared on bbc sport today

"He's got one game to save his job... That's according to the manager himself. One of football strangest statements? http://bbc.in/2dwTVsc "

what do we know that the odds-setter doesn't? i'd argue not a lot.

[TightEnd]

In the NFL since 2003, double-digit home underdogs are 40-26 Against the spread (60.6 %)

Anyone taking their hard-earned and putting it on the Browns vs Patriots in Tom Brady's first game back?

don't all shout at once

[horseplayer]

i think that is all correct. early start on a saturday morning arrive at ground 1pm, warm up at 2pm play at 3pm

very rare to get overnight stay the night before


anyway, my only question is the York situation is widely known.

for example this appeared on bbc sport today

"He's got one game to save his job... That's according to the manager himself. One of football strangest statements? http://bbc.in/2dwTVsc "

what do we know that the odds-setter doesn't? i'd argue not a lot.

Agree

Braintree are also arguably even worse than York.

[pleno1]

Not sure if you bet on gpl, but Montreal crushing as expected

[hector62]

Tighty,

Should webe backing Bangladesh to beat England tomorrow, or maybe the series?.  Around 2 to 1 for either on the home team, who beat S Africa, India and Pakistan in recent series. We have no Root, Cook or Morgan, not that Morgan will be much missed. I expect low scoring wickets, and I think we are far better when the ball reallys hits the bat.

[TightEnd]

Tighty,

Should webe backing Bangladesh to beat England tomorrow, or maybe the series?.  Around 2 to 1 for either on the home team, who beat S Africa, India and Pakistan in recent series. We have no Root, Cook or Morgan, not that Morgan will be much missed. I expect low scoring wickets, and I think we are far better when the ball reallys hits the bat.

a write up i did was as follows

"Bangladesh v England Cricket ODI series Preview

After a successful summer England’s cricketers are in Bangladesh for a short tour ahead of the main event of the winter, a five Test series in India.

The first part of the tour sees a three match ODI series beginning on Friday. The Schedule is as follows:

Oct 07, Fri 1st ODI Shere Bangla National Stadium, Dhaka 2:30pm local
Oct 09, Sun  2nd ODI Shere Bangla National Stadium, Dhaka 2.30pm local
Oct 12, Wed 3rd ODI Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong 2.30pm local

It has been a difficult lead up to the tour with security concerns around touring. No international side has toured Bangladesh since 20 people were killed in a siege at a cafe in Dhaka in July. England’s squad is without ODI captain Eoin Morgan who chose not to tour, so Jos Buttler captains. Mark Wood has withdrawn through injury so the 14 man ODI squad is as follows

Jos Buttler (captain, Lancashire), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Jake Ball (Nottinghamshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Liam Dawson (Hampshire), Ben Duckett (Northamptonshire), Liam Plunkett (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), James Vince (Hampshire), David Willey (Yorkshire), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)

Batsman Joe Root has been rested from the one-day team and the squad instead features one of the big breakthrough stars of English domestic cricket Ben Duckett alongside the bulk of the side that has transformed England’s results in this format since the last World Cup and England’s early exit. The squad is particularly strong in batting match-winners and all-rounders which allows for a very deep batting line up.

Touring Bangladesh is a challenge though not only because of off-the-field difficulties but because playing conditions are unusual for young English cricketers with dry, low spinning pitches that need different skills than they are used to. In particular the ball is not going to come onto the bat of the English big hitters.

Bangladesh are a fast developing side, particularly at home. Their last home ODI series came against Zimbabwe in November last year. The hosts won all three matches. Earlier in 2015, Bangladesh had beaten Pakistan, India and South Africa at home.

England have played 10 ODIs in the recent past – five against Sri Lanka and five more against Pakistan. England beat Sri Lanka 3-0 after the first match was tied and one more game saw no result. They were clinical against Pakistan as well, taking an unassailable 4-0 lead in the series before losing the final game at Cardiff.

Tamin Iqbal and Imrul Kayes form a strong opening partnership for Bangladesh. Both batsmen have good records in ODI cricket. Youngster Litton Das has been a hot prospect for a while and he will look to mature into an important player for the Tigers. Madmudullah, Mashrafe Mortaza and Mustafizur Rahman are three more important constituents of the side. Bangladesh’s rise to prominence last season came on the backs of some brilliant performances from Mustafizur but unfortunately he misses the series injured which is a major loss.

These two sides last met in Adelaide during the 2015 ICC Cricket World Cup and Bangladesh won by 15 runs as England crashed out. The last time that England played Bangladesh in one-off ODI in Bangladesh, the hosts won by a couple of wickets at Chittagong.

England are much improved in the format since those games and understandably enough perhaps have been installed as 2/5 favourites to win the three match series, Bangladesh 2/1. For the first game itself prices are similar

The value in these difficult conditions has to be with the emerging home side at 2/1 with Betfred, with the 11/4 about a 2-1 series correct score with Ladbrokes also tempting".

[Chompy]

Posh are on a downswing and McCann's days could be numbered, even though he's a club legend and will be cut more slack than most. Some of his substitutions have been baffling and his insistence to play the diamond is hurting us.

Fatty Evans was in the crowd for a second game on the spin on Tuesday. Yes, he's a fan but he doesn't often go to games.

We have no striker. Nichols tries hard but he's better as part of a two. Deon Moore is the flavour of the month but he's 17 and nowhere near ready. Coulthirst has been frozen out and Angol is injured.

There's no lack of effort from any of them but this is not a winning team and nobody seems to know their job. DMac won't put up with it for long with so much sell-on value in midfield; Forrester, Maddison, Se Silva Lopes.

We've only won three of 11 in the league and were awful against MK on Tuesday. Forrester (captain) looks hacked off and Nichols gave the crowd a long, lingering glare after getting stick.

Bury are full of confidence. The crowd will be small and flat. Bury are a good bet at 13-5.

£50 Bury @ 13-5.
£20 Bury to win to nil @ 13-2.

[TightEnd]

Peterborough United v Bury
Match Result
   Bury   5/2   
Total stake   50.00
Estimated return   175.00
Full stake   50.00
Full estimated return   175.00

Bury Peterborough v Bury To Win To Nil
13/2
Total Stake: £20.00
Total Returns: £150.00

[hhyftrftdr]

On Saturday York City travel to Braintree in the Conference norf or whatever its called these days. York are my hometown club so I always have half an eye on how they are doing, and it has been pretty grim for a while. The cherry on what has been an awful cake for the last 18 months was Tuesday night where they were hammered by bottom of the league part timers Guiseley 6-1. York haven't won away for 29 games now, Guiseley had 3 points from 13 games before Tuesday.

Jackie McNamara is an extremely unpopular manager amongst the fans and, from what I gather, amongst the players too. It's been reported in the local press tonight that he has one game to save his job. It seems unlikely the players are gonna be fighting for a manager they don't even want. I'm pretty sure most fans would be happy to see York beat at the weekend if it means the end of McNamara, such is the disdain they have for him.

Braintree are pretty poor themselves, sitting 22nd in the table (York are 20th, 3 points ahead), however York are so bad at the moment, especially away from home, that I was surprised to see Braintree were 7/5.

Rec £30 on Braintree at 7/5 with choral. Would rec more if Braintree weren't also a bit shit, but I think most pub teams could beat York at the moment.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/non-league/national-league/braintree-town-v-york-city/winner

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Heres a naive view.

In a league with no real fans and thus no crazy atmosphere how does away performance mean anything? I get in Premier league certain grounds are harder but at this level really?

Fact is both teams are god awful and anyone can win? Form is relevant but they are above them
In the league, I struggle to see how home/away form can matter at this
Level.

As others have pointed out, its more the travel and preparation (or lack of it) that can hinder an away team. Can't imagine there are many none league fortresses but not being stuck on a coach in the immediate hours before a game can give a real advantage to a home team when the skill advantage is negligible.

Yeah Braintree are also poor, and Guiseley are woeful but still managed to put 6 past this York team midweek. The fans (and players) know that a defeat means he's almost 100% gone, and that is what they want and have wanted for a while. Any team would fancy their chances against York at the moment, even in the leagues immediately below.

[TightEnd]

Tighty,

Should webe backing Bangladesh to beat England tomorrow, or maybe the series?.  Around 2 to 1 for either on the home team, who beat S Africa, India and Pakistan in recent series. We have no Root, Cook or Morgan, not that Morgan will be much missed. I expect low scoring wickets, and I think we are far better when the ball reallys hits the bat.

this is an interesting article too

"According to Buttler, Bangladesh are favourites for the ODI series,"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/oct/06/england-odi-series-bangladesh-captain-jos-buttler-duckett-mirpur?CMP=share_btn_tw

someone should tell the bookmakers.....

The hosts are now 9/4 for the series with Bald.

http://www.oddschecker.com/cricket/bangladesh-v-england/bangladesh-england-odi-series/series-winner

[tikay]

Tighty,

Should webe backing Bangladesh to beat England tomorrow, or maybe the series?.  Around 2 to 1 for either on the home team, who beat S Africa, India and Pakistan in recent series. We have no Root, Cook or Morgan, not that Morgan will be much missed. I expect low scoring wickets, and I think we are far better when the ball reallys hits the bat.

a write up i did was as follows

"Bangladesh v England Cricket ODI series Preview

After a successful summer England’s cricketers are in Bangladesh for a short tour ahead of the main event of the winter, a five Test series in India.

The first part of the tour sees a three match ODI series beginning on Friday. The Schedule is as follows:

Oct 07, Fri 1st ODI Shere Bangla National Stadium, Dhaka 2:30pm local
Oct 09, Sun  2nd ODI Shere Bangla National Stadium, Dhaka 2.30pm local
Oct 12, Wed 3rd ODI Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong 2.30pm local

It has been a difficult lead up to the tour with security concerns around touring. No international side has toured Bangladesh since 20 people were killed in a siege at a cafe in Dhaka in July. England’s squad is without ODI captain Eoin Morgan who chose not to tour, so Jos Buttler captains. Mark Wood has withdrawn through injury so the 14 man ODI squad is as follows

Jos Buttler (captain, Lancashire), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire), Jake Ball (Nottinghamshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Liam Dawson (Hampshire), Ben Duckett (Northamptonshire), Liam Plunkett (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), James Vince (Hampshire), David Willey (Yorkshire), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)

Batsman Joe Root has been rested from the one-day team and the squad instead features one of the big breakthrough stars of English domestic cricket Ben Duckett alongside the bulk of the side that has transformed England’s results in this format since the last World Cup and England’s early exit. The squad is particularly strong in batting match-winners and all-rounders which allows for a very deep batting line up.

Touring Bangladesh is a challenge though not only because of off-the-field difficulties but because playing conditions are unusual for young English cricketers with dry, low spinning pitches that need different skills than they are used to. In particular the ball is not going to come onto the bat of the English big hitters.

Bangladesh are a fast developing side, particularly at home. Their last home ODI series came against Zimbabwe in November last year. The hosts won all three matches. Earlier in 2015, Bangladesh had beaten Pakistan, India and South Africa at home.

England have played 10 ODIs in the recent past – five against Sri Lanka and five more against Pakistan. England beat Sri Lanka 3-0 after the first match was tied and one more game saw no result. They were clinical against Pakistan as well, taking an unassailable 4-0 lead in the series before losing the final game at Cardiff.

Tamin Iqbal and Imrul Kayes form a strong opening partnership for Bangladesh. Both batsmen have good records in ODI cricket. Youngster Litton Das has been a hot prospect for a while and he will look to mature into an important player for the Tigers. Madmudullah, Mashrafe Mortaza and Mustafizur Rahman are three more important constituents of the side. Bangladesh’s rise to prominence last season came on the backs of some brilliant performances from Mustafizur but unfortunately he misses the series injured which is a major loss.

These two sides last met in Adelaide during the 2015 ICC Cricket World Cup and Bangladesh won by 15 runs as England crashed out. The last time that England played Bangladesh in one-off ODI in Bangladesh, the hosts won by a couple of wickets at Chittagong.

England are much improved in the format since those games and understandably enough perhaps have been installed as 2/5 favourites to win the three match series, Bangladesh 2/1. For the first game itself prices are similar

The value in these difficult conditions has to be with the emerging home side at 2/1 with Betfred, with the 11/4 about a 2-1 series correct score with Ladbrokes also tempting".

Let's get on board the Bangladesh Express, Tighty.