Arsenal FC a very promising story

[Karabiner]

No one doubted Sanchez

Barca appear to have done.

[horseplayer]

It's hardly a judge of a player is it?

He is a regular starter for one of the best defensive units in Spain not an unknown

My query is the price and the fact 12 months ago you could have got him for a tenth of the price.

It sounds like you're saying that it's good business for both then.

Even AW can't be expected to be clairvoyant all the time.

Wasn't it you that doubted AW's wisdom in buying Alexis Sanchez in the summer?

No point even posting that is there really?

Infact that is so far from what i posted ill leave you to it

[George2Loose]

No one doubted Sanchez

Barca appear to have done.

Can't really compare Barca to arsenal

[tikay]

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Going along nicely now.

[TheDazzler]

3-0

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Going along nicely now.

And Bellerin and particularly Coquelin both so good in problem positions for you has to be very pleasing.

[The Camel]

3-0

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Going along nicely now.

And Bellerin and particularly Coquelin both so good in problem positions for you has to be very pleasing.

Just about every season since Arsenal last won the title they've had runs like this when they look fantastic.

And all the Wenger supporters pat themselves on the back on smile contentedly.

But the fact is with the talent and resources at Arsenal's disposal they should be going on season-long runs like this.

Once they've won the title and made a CL final or two, then we can finally all agree Arsenal are where they should be.

[George2Loose]

The race for the CL is certainly hotting up! Spurs, Arsenal, United and Liverpool all hitting form. Should be an interesting run in- a little worried United may end up missing out

[TightEnd]

Once they've won the title and made a CL final or two, then we can finally all agree Arsenal are where they should be.

do you think its realistic for them to win the title though?

Man C have spent £660m since the Qatari's arrived. Abramovich has spent more in his decade at Chelsea

man c in particular seem to defy FFP rules

i know the debate has been had on here before, but surely 3rd for Arsenal, if not consistent fourth, is the equivalent of them winning the league 15 years ago in this competitive environment?

I know Arsenal have £120m in the bank, and the stadium will be paid for, its extremely conservatively run.....but not sure its prudent to all out compete with city and chelsea is it?

[TheDazzler]

3-0

2-0

5-0


Going along nicely now.

And Bellerin and particularly Coquelin both so good in problem positions for you has to be very pleasing.

Just about every season since Arsenal last won the title they've had runs like this when they look fantastic.

And all the Wenger supporters pat themselves on the back on smile contentedly.

But the fact is with the talent and resources at Arsenal's disposal they should be going on season-long runs like this.

Once they've won the title and made a CL final or two, then we can finally all agree Arsenal are where they should be.

They have only had 2 years (this and last) when they have decided to be a significant nett spender. They could have done this earlier but they decided to be financially prudent. You can argue whether they should have done this or not.
I would think this season they have gone backwards from last year when they were genuine contenders for a long time so there is that.
But if you remove the financially reckless Man City and Chelsea teams, Arsenal would have done pretty well over the last decade. You can't just say Arsenal should have done better with the 'talent and resources available to them', without looking at their competitors. City and Chelsea have had better talent and resources available to them without worrying about financial prudence.

Edit: slow pony, Tighty got there before me

[TightEnd]

Don't get me wrong, there are definitely areas where Arsenal could have built a team differently to be closer to 1st and 2nd

goalkeeper, centre back, defensive midfield for starters where you'd argue Arsenal haven't got bang for their buck, but not sure winning the title is even feasible in an era with wealthy nations and oil billionaires bankrolling your major competitors

we didn't even mention Man U being a billion in debt (serviced by huge commerical revenues) as well, and outspending you on talent

[The Camel]

Once they've won the title and made a CL final or two, then we can finally all agree Arsenal are where they should be.

do you think its realistic for them to win the title though?

Man C have spent £660m since the Qatari's arrived. Abramovich has spent more in his decade at Chelsea

man c in particular seem to defy FFP rules

i know the debate has been had on here before, but surely 3rd for Arsenal, if not consistent fourth, is the equivalent of them winning the league 15 years ago in this competitive environment?

I know Arsenal have £120m in the bank, and the stadium will be paid for, its extremely conservatively run.....but not sure its prudent to all out compete with city and chelsea is it?

If I was an Arsenal supporter I wouldn't be happy with 120m in the bank but never challenging for titles.

Atletico beat Real and Barca in Spain (who definitely have a bigger financial advangate than City and Chelsea do over Arsenal), Dortmund have nearly done it in Germany.

Why shouldn't Arsenal do it in England?

[TightEnd]

Once they've won the title and made a CL final or two, then we can finally all agree Arsenal are where they should be.

do you think its realistic for them to win the title though?

Man C have spent £660m since the Qatari's arrived. Abramovich has spent more in his decade at Chelsea

man c in particular seem to defy FFP rules

i know the debate has been had on here before, but surely 3rd for Arsenal, if not consistent fourth, is the equivalent of them winning the league 15 years ago in this competitive environment?

I know Arsenal have £120m in the bank, and the stadium will be paid for, its extremely conservatively run.....but not sure its prudent to all out compete with city and chelsea is it?

If I was an Arsenal supporter I wouldn't be happy with 120m in the bank but never challenging for titles.

Atletico beat Real and Barca in Spain (who definitely have a bigger financial advangate than City and Chelsea do over Arsenal), Dortmund have nearly done it in Germany.

Why shouldn't Arsenal do it in England?

that is a fair point, Atletico and Dortmund

Arsenal might have done if the team had been built differently

fewer 5 ft 7 flair midfielders and a nastier spine to the team for example

which is where i think it can fairly be argued that Wenger has lost his way

 
of course the one scenario where Arsenal will make out like bandits is if the TV market collapses, they'll be cash rich in a buyerss market. looks further away than ever though

[rfgqqabc]

Once they've won the title and made a CL final or two, then we can finally all agree Arsenal are where they should be.

do you think its realistic for them to win the title though?

Man C have spent £660m since the Qatari's arrived. Abramovich has spent more in his decade at Chelsea

man c in particular seem to defy FFP rules

i know the debate has been had on here before, but surely 3rd for Arsenal, if not consistent fourth, is the equivalent of them winning the league 15 years ago in this competitive environment?

I know Arsenal have £120m in the bank, and the stadium will be paid for, its extremely conservatively run.....but not sure its prudent to all out compete with city and chelsea is it?

If I was an Arsenal supporter I wouldn't be happy with 120m in the bank but never challenging for titles.

Atletico beat Real and Barca in Spain (who definitely have a bigger financial advangate than City and Chelsea do over Arsenal), Dortmund have nearly done it in Germany.

Why shouldn't Arsenal do it in England?

Variance?

[The Camel]

Once they've won the title and made a CL final or two, then we can finally all agree Arsenal are where they should be.

do you think its realistic for them to win the title though?

Man C have spent £660m since the Qatari's arrived. Abramovich has spent more in his decade at Chelsea

man c in particular seem to defy FFP rules

i know the debate has been had on here before, but surely 3rd for Arsenal, if not consistent fourth, is the equivalent of them winning the league 15 years ago in this competitive environment?

I know Arsenal have £120m in the bank, and the stadium will be paid for, its extremely conservatively run.....but not sure its prudent to all out compete with city and chelsea is it?

If I was an Arsenal supporter I wouldn't be happy with 120m in the bank but never challenging for titles.

Atletico beat Real and Barca in Spain (who definitely have a bigger financial advangate than City and Chelsea do over Arsenal), Dortmund have nearly done it in Germany.

Why shouldn't Arsenal do it in England?

Variance?

Taking Atletico..

Results variance? Could just about accept that in the Champions League, but Atletico matched the other two blow for blow in La Liga and won it. 50+ games of running good in total is an awful lot of run good.

Finding decent players all at once? They achieved last season's success having just sold Falcao, who would rated in the top 10 strikers in the world. And Demichealis. Only sold Aguero a couple of seasons ago.

Sold Diego Costa and Filipe Luis in the summer of 2014 and they are right up there again this season.

Their system obvious works despite spending a fraction of the money on transfers and wages that Barca and Real do.

I don't think there is any dispute that Arsenal are in a better competitive position financially than Atletico.

[Marky147]

Swap gaffers, obv