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Topic: Arsenal FC a very promising story (Read 600560 times)
teddybloat
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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April 23, 2018, 01:18:45 PM »
Lost none of his hubris lol.
For me his teams are epitomised by that giroud celebration. He scores a quirky goal in a nothing game via a back heel. Different, but not iconic. Nothing in he Zola 04 or zlatan v England bracket of esoteric greatness.
Then the next game they're are losing v bournmouth, a team genuine contenders tend to mop up victories against, he scores to pull them level. Instead of running to wrestle the ball to the keeper to get a restart and look for victory, he runs to the fans and does an effette dance by way of recreation. As though the goal was summat more special than looking to beat bournmouth. Worthy of recreation, as if people wanted to be reminded of a fluke goal instead of wanting to see a win.
Celebrating style over substance, being content with pretty failure.
Compare Walcott's inertia with oxlades desire to make a name for himself.
That's how most people will remember arsenes arsenal.
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nirvana
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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April 23, 2018, 06:23:35 PM »
Quote from: teddybloat on April 23, 2018, 01:18:45 PM
Lost none of his hubris lol.
For me his teams are epitomised by that giroud celebration. He scores a quirky goal in a nothing game via a back heel. Different, but not iconic. Nothing in he Zola 04 or zlatan v England bracket of esoteric greatness.
Then the next game they're are losing v bournmouth, a team genuine contenders tend to mop up victories against, he scores to pull them level. Instead of running to wrestle the ball to the keeper to get a restart and look for victory, he runs to the fans and does an effette dance by way of recreation. As though the goal was summat more special than looking to beat bournmouth. Worthy of recreation, as if people wanted to be reminded of a fluke goal instead of wanting to see a win.
Celebrating style over substance, being content with pretty failure.
Compare Walcott's inertia with oxlades desire to make a name for himself.
That's how most people will remember arsenes arsenal.
I think that's one of the regrettable outcomes of the last 10-12 years - I don't know how old you are but if he'd left Arsenal in 2006 not much of that would stand up to scrutiny. We were still second to an exceptional United over the 10 year period from when he joined, competitive at least in the Champions league on a few occasions, with a team that was ruthless, pretty fkn hard, effort filled and playing better football than most were playing then or have since.
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teddybloat
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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April 23, 2018, 07:20:00 PM »
Oh I lurved the late 90s / early millennium arsenal.
If giroud summed up latter day arsenal, then for me bergkamp epitomised his great teams : tough intelligent and outrageously talented and classy. Didn't like travelling to Europe much though.
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April 23, 2018, 07:29:24 PM »
I love this creation and wish I could credit it's author - shamelessly nicked from Twitter:
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Quote from: teddybloat on April 23, 2018, 07:20:00 PM
Oh I lurved the late 90s / early millennium arsenal.
If giroud summed up latter day arsenal, then for me bergkamp epitomised his great teams : tough intelligent and outrageously talented and classy. Didn't like travelling to Europe much though.
Last line sums it up better than I could :-)
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hhyftrftdr
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April 23, 2018, 09:40:52 PM »
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/wenger-agrees-to-leave-arsenal-in-2005-20180423147835
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April 25, 2018, 11:01:12 AM »
It's the Telegraph
Hopefully that's high brow enough for debate and not dismissal
Arsenal war-chest alert...new manager will also be restricted financially after big squad spending of last two years on fees and a wage-bill that's never been higher. Summer budget (before sales) is around £50m:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/04/23/new-arsenal-manager-restricted-50m-summer-transfer-budget/
on such budgets,there has to be a risk that the lower end top 6 is the highest reasonable expectation?
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April 25, 2018, 11:26:00 AM »
prices on Next Arsenal Manager...
5/2f Enrique (small drift)
11/2 Arteta (small drift)
9/1 Allegri
11/1 Rodgers
12/1 Vieira
14/1 Jardim
14/1 Ancelotti (big drift)
16/1 Howe (small cut)
16/1 Nagelsmann
16/1 Tuchel
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April 25, 2018, 05:22:30 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on April 25, 2018, 11:26:00 AM
prices on Next Arsenal Manager...
5/2f Enrique (small drift)
11/2 Arteta (small drift)
9/1 Allegri
11/1 Rodgers
12/1 Vieira
14/1 Jardim
14/1 Ancelotti (big drift)
16/1 Howe (small cut)
16/1 Nagelsmann
16/1 Tuchel
Is there a price for thick players who think they're super smart - would like to back a Campbell/Adams dream team
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April 25, 2018, 05:33:35 PM »
Arsène Wenger says timing of Arsenal departure ‘not really my decision’
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/25/arsene-wenger-leave-arsenal-not-my-decision
So it looks like Wenger got, at the very least, the tap on the shoulder, if not the toe up the arse.
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April 25, 2018, 05:33:44 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on April 25, 2018, 05:22:30 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on April 25, 2018, 11:26:00 AM
prices on Next Arsenal Manager...
5/2f Enrique (small drift)
11/2 Arteta (small drift)
9/1 Allegri
11/1 Rodgers
12/1 Vieira
14/1 Jardim
14/1 Ancelotti (big drift)
16/1 Howe (small cut)
16/1 Nagelsmann
16/1 Tuchel
Is there a price for thick players who think they're super smart - would like to back a Campbell/Adams dream team
Merson/Parlour would be much more enjoyable to watch.
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April 25, 2018, 06:30:08 PM »
Reckon he's getting paid his final years salary in full? Or just a golden handshake to finally clear off?
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April 25, 2018, 06:36:42 PM »
Should be giving some of his wages back, not taking a payoff
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Quote from: Marky147 on April 25, 2018, 06:36:42 PM
Should be giving some of his wages back, not taking a payoff
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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April 25, 2018, 07:21:32 PM »
He doesn't appear to be a happy bunny with his recent comments, not the image Arsenal would want - or he would presumably want for Arsenal given his earlier comments.
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